Rnd 11 Pre-Match Thread, vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel, 7:30 PM Thursday 23 May 2024

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  • liz
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    • Jan 2003
    • 16757

    #16
    Originally posted by Ludwig
    Yes, I think that's the best way to go. And we retain the the continuity of the playing group with minimal changes.
    I imagine either McCartin will come in for Francis or he won't.

    Roberts will come back into the team in Fox's place, and he and Campbell will duke it out for the sub role. If they really thought Roberts needed a rest, it makes sense for him to be sub and for Campbell to get a full game after barely a quarter last week. They all get a week off playing the following week, which gives the club an opportunity for an extra solid training block or two to get some miles into Roberts's and Campbell's legs.

    If they've been reluctant to change things up by bringing Parker back in, it's hard to see them doing so for Sheldrick, who is probably the only player making a case for a senior spot at the moment. But I guess he could come in as sub instead of Roberts.

    I'd love to see Corey get a string of games later in the year, though he's going to reliant on injury to others (and getting over his own injury). I know he's not shown much yet at senior level, but I just think he's on the verge of popping, and proving to be another valuable, quick, outside runner. I'd also like to see him play a Wicks type role at VFL level to see how he fares. Back-up to Wicks might be his best chance of getting a few games in the near future but I'm only guessing because he's not played in the VFL forward line much since his first year, and he's developed a fair bit since then. There were reports during pre-season that he was turning heads with his aerial prowess but sadly his most ambitious demonstration of that in the VFL side is what left him with a sprained ankle.

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    • SwanSand
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      • Aug 2020
      • 525

      #17
      Now that Parker is going to be banned it reduces the pressure on Longmire to think about him.
      But does Adams offer more than Parker? I would think Parker is definitely better. Can play a permanent forward role, both are slow and Adams is not being given many more stoppage roles as initially anticipated. He pretty much is now doing the same roles that he did not want to do at Collingwood and hence jumped ship. Is he better at delivering the ball from inside to outside or from outside 50 to inside 50 than Parker. I doubt it. Parker is really unlucky coz I think there may have been a handshake arrangement that Adams is going to play a certain number of games in a year when he jumped ship.

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      • ISIBIDBI
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        • Sep 2018
        • 29

        #18
        McCartin set to miss again this week (per Daniel Garb on Twitter), probably smart given the bye next week

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        • 707
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          • Aug 2009
          • 6204

          #19
          Originally posted by ISIBIDBI
          McCartin set to miss again this week (per Daniel Garb on Twitter), probably smart given the bye next week
          Thinking long term, there's a flag to be won in September, it's now May!

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          • waswan
            Senior Player
            • Oct 2015
            • 2047

            #20
            Good interview from Longmire

            Answered everything you could want to know.

            Sheldrick, Parker and Mills

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            • Maltopia
              Senior Player
              • Apr 2016
              • 1556

              #21
              Originally posted by waswan
              Good interview from Longmire

              Answered everything you could want to know.

              Sheldrick, Parker and Mills
              Where can we listen to the interview? It isn’t on the front page of AFL website.

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              • Thunder Shaker
                Aut vincere aut mori
                • Apr 2004
                • 4185

                #22
                Originally posted by Maltopia
                Where can we listen to the interview? It isn’t on the front page of AFL website.
                Maybe this link can help. Key Quotes: John Longmire, Round 11
                "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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                • liz
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                  • Jan 2003
                  • 16757

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Thunder Shaker
                  Maybe this link can help. Key Quotes: John Longmire, Round 11
                  The whole interview is on the Swans' site. (It's rare for midweek coach interviews to be on the main AFL site.)

                  You just have to scroll down to the video section.

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                  • Hotpotato
                    Senior Player
                    • Jun 2014
                    • 2267

                    #24
                    Originally posted by liz
                    I don't think Naughton/Ugle-Hagan/Darcy is any more dangerous a trio than Curnow/McKay/De Koning. Not to the extent of bringing in an extra tall defender to combat them.

                    I think the coaches will just accept that, at times, the Dogs' tall forwards may be too tall and may take marks and kick goals, just as they knew Curnow and McKay almost certainly would. They'll focus on having the players to mop up ground balls so that the smaller Dogs don't dine out, and - of course - keeping the pressure up around the ground to make it harder for clean delivery into the Dogs' forward line.
                    Where DO the smaller dogs dine out in Sydney, Mosmans premier butcher shop is good, but very expensive and a lot of v good restaurants have closed up now.

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                    • dejavoodoo44
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                      • Apr 2015
                      • 8570

                      #25
                      Just one change, with Roberts returning for the injured Fox.

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                      • graemed
                        Swans2win
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 410

                        #26
                        I have been really nervous about this game:

                        1. I hate Marvel. Its a cursed ground and we have a terrible record there.

                        2. Their tall forwards are awesome and without Tom we lack height to even make a contest in many cases.

                        3. No I'm not going to go there because I'm afraid to jinx it but ...

                        So with all that keeping me up at night, off to the golf course this morning for my 70th birthday treat and there on the 13th tee a black swan waddles up from the lake directly in front of me stops and waits for me to play my shot and then bows as a I go by.

                        I'm feeling much better.

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                        • Auntie.Gerald
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                          • Oct 2009
                          • 6474

                          #27
                          They have weapons.
                          So do we.
                          Could go down to the wire !
                          "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                          • liz
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                            • Jan 2003
                            • 16757

                            #28
                            Originally posted by graemed
                            I have been really nervous about this game:

                            1. I hate Marvel. Its a cursed ground and we have a terrible record there.

                            2. Their tall forwards are awesome and without Tom we lack height to even make a contest in many cases.

                            3. No I'm not going to go there because I'm afraid to jinx it but ...

                            So with all that keeping me up at night, off to the golf course this morning for my 70th birthday treat and there on the 13th tee a black swan waddles up from the lake directly in front of me stops and waits for me to play my shot and then bows as a I go by.

                            I'm feeling much better.
                            I'm glad the black swan has settled your nerves.

                            But even before that:
                            1 Our record at Marvel is actually pretty decent. Indeed, we have a higher winning ratio there than all clubs other than Geelong.



                            2 Carlton have awesome tall forwards too, and we coped with them without McCartin. That doesn't mean the Dogs' forwards can't get hold of us, but should be enough to give us some confidence.

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                            • neilfws
                              Senior Player
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 1821

                              #29
                              Originally posted by graemed
                              1. I hate Marvel. Its a cursed ground and we have a terrible record there.
                              Better than the MCG!

                              Since 2000 at Marvel: Win-Loss-Draw = 39-25-2 (59.1% W)
                              Since 2000 at MCG: Win-Loss-Draw = 34-39-1 (45.9% W)

                              Unlikely to be a statistically-significant difference though.

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                              • stevoswan
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                                • Sep 2014
                                • 8548

                                #30
                                Originally posted by graemed

                                .....off to the golf course this morning for my 70th birthday treat and there on the 13th tee a black swan waddles up from the lake directly in front of me stops and waits for me to play my shot and then bows as a I go by.

                                I'm feeling much better.
                                If said swan then chased and pecked a bulldog who yelped all the way home.....I'd be feeling even better again!

                                I reckon the Dogs could be dangerous but I think we have them covered.

                                One must remember that the Dogs also have the ability to be putrid and are absolutely 'thrashable' at times.
                                Last edited by stevoswan; 23 May 2024, 04:56 PM.

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