Round 11 - the other games

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  • dejavoodoo44
    Veterans List
    • Apr 2015
    • 8570

    #16
    Looks like Brisbane are in a bit of trouble. Should be ten points out of the eight at the end of the round, with a fair few key players injured. Though strangely, they're also only ten points out of the top four.

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    • 707
      Veterans List
      • Aug 2009
      • 6204

      #17
      Lots of results assisting us, top eight match ups in next few weeks slows the chasing pack. Brisbane are probably not going to make it.

      Just waiting for Essendon to get some tougher opponents and slip, just like Geelong have

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      • crackedactor 01
        Regular in the Side
        • Jun 2020
        • 742

        #18
        Compare the pair

        Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
        Looks like Brisbane are in a bit of trouble. Should be ten points out of the eight at the end of the round, with a fair few key players injured. Though strangely, they're also only ten points out of the top four.
        Find it interesting that Hawthorn beat have beaten good sides in Brisbane, Bulldogs and should have won against Port Adelaide. Yet we smashed them by 74 points.

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        • neilfws
          Senior Player
          • Aug 2009
          • 1821

          #19
          Good comeback by the Dockers in what wasn't a great game to watch for the most part. I dozed off and missed the final siren.

          I expect the usual reactionary articles from media pundits about "ending the draw" now that we've had 3 this season. Prior to this round there have been 168 in 16496 games of V/AFL; still close to averaging one per year (and 2-3 is not unexpected). As usual people get excited about the unusual, not the 200+ games a year that are not draws.

          I did enjoy this recent ABC article on the topic, and the "draw song"

          Why the AFL should embrace the draw and have a song to celebrate them

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          • dejavoodoo44
            Veterans List
            • Apr 2015
            • 8570

            #20
            Originally posted by neilfws
            Good comeback by the Dockers in what wasn't a great game to watch for the most part. I dozed off and missed the final siren.

            I expect the usual reactionary articles from media pundits about "ending the draw" now that we've had 3 this season. Prior to this round there have been 168 in 16496 games of V/AFL; still close to averaging one per year (and 2-3 is not unexpected). As usual people get excited about the unusual, not the 200+ games a year that are not draws.

            I did enjoy this recent ABC article on the topic, and the "draw song"

            Why the AFL should embrace the draw and have a song to celebrate them
            That's excellent and I do like how they captured the late nineteenth/early twentieth century feel of most club songs. And why shouldn't that be played over the PA, so everyone can have a nice sing along when your team wins two points.

            And personally, I see no real need to get rid of the draw. I think most people are able to rapidly get over their disappointment at their team not winning, by reflecting on the fact that it was actually an exciting game that was worth the admission price and that two points are better than one.

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            • Thunder Shaker
              Aut vincere aut mori
              • Apr 2004
              • 4185

              #21
              Originally posted by 707
              Just waiting for Essendon to get some tougher opponents and slip, just like Geelong have
              It's quite odd how people are talking up Essendon when most of their wins have been against bottom teams.

              Even those wins are not impressive with several close finishes. St Kilda 4 points, Adelaide 3 points, West Coast 6 points, Richmond 12 points. Some of their wins have larger margins, but so have their losses. Their percentage of 104 shows what they have done.

              I expect Essendon will make the finals, but probably not the top four.
              "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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              • Maltopia
                Senior Player
                • Apr 2016
                • 1556

                #22
                Originally posted by Thunder Shaker
                It's quite odd how people are talking up Essendon when most of their wins have been against bottom teams.

                Even those wins are not impressive with several close finishes. St Kilda 4 points, Adelaide 3 points, West Coast 6 points, Richmond 12 points. Some of their wins have larger margins, but so have their losses. Their percentage of 104 shows what they have done.

                I expect Essendon will make the finals, but probably not the top four.
                It would be perfect for them to finish in top four and take a double chance from a better team, then go out in straight sets

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                • KTigers
                  Senior Player
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 2499

                  #23
                  Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
                  Yes, someone being allowed to have a wrestle for five or ten seconds, while their opponent is trying to play on, is one of my pet hates. Along the same line, is players almost always being able to tackle an opponent to the ground, if they're deemed to be in the marking contest when a mark is taken.
                  My favourite is a player can win a car by taking Mark Of The Year putting their knee into an opposition player's back or the back of
                  their head whilst taking their speccy, but it's a free against if they brush up against their back during the rest of the game.

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                  • Meg
                    Go Swannies!
                    Site Admin
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 4828

                    #24
                    Originally posted by KTigers
                    My favourite is a player can win a car by taking Mark Of The Year putting their knee into an opposition player's back or the back of
                    their head whilst taking their speccy, but it's a free against if they brush up against their back during the rest of the game.
                    Plus 1 KT. Weird anomaly.

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                    • Mel_C
                      Veterans List
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 4470

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Maltopia
                      It would be perfect for them to finish in top four and take a double chance from a better team, then go out in straight sets
                      The last time Essendon won a final was 2004! Since that time, Rafael Nadal won 22 Grand Slams. It looks like he is retiring this year, so unfortunately Essendon might finally win a final. Oh how sweet it would be if they went out in straight sets!

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                      • Mel_C
                        Veterans List
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 4470

                        #26
                        So there is going to be a change to the way HTB is adjudicated this round. I only caught the end of the conversation, so I'm not sure what exactly is going to change. I'm just glad we have the bye, because something tells me with our luck in dodgy umpiring, we would be penalised more !

                        I'll be interested to see if they penalise players that are swung around more than 360 degrees, even if they do dispose of the ball. (They used to penalise Buddy all the time for this).

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                        • dejavoodoo44
                          Veterans List
                          • Apr 2015
                          • 8570

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Mel_C
                          So there is going to be a change to the way HTB is adjudicated this round. I only caught the end of the conversation, so I'm not sure what exactly is going to change. I'm just glad we have the bye, because something tells me with our luck in dodgy umpiring, we would be penalised more !

                          I'll be interested to see if they penalise players that are swung around more than 360 degrees, even if they do dispose of the ball. (They used to penalise Buddy all the time for this).
                          Hopefully, there could be some sort of correction to favour tacklers, rather than those that dispose of the ball any old how, once tackled. So, since we're a team that generally makes plenty of tackles, perhaps we should be advantaged in the long term?

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                          • Nico
                            Veterans List
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 11336

                            #28
                            Richmond have been slaughtered on free kicks for years now. I wonder if the new rule will help balance that up.
                            http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                            • stevoswan
                              Veterans List
                              • Sep 2014
                              • 8548

                              #29
                              Originally posted by KTigers
                              My favourite is a player can win a car by taking Mark Of The Year putting their knee into an opposition player's back or the back of
                              their head whilst taking their speccy, but it's a free against if they brush up against their back during the rest of the game.
                              Yes, a knee is far worse than an elbow to receive in the head....yet it's the chance of a car as opposed to a suspension of weeks!

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                              • Maltopia
                                Senior Player
                                • Apr 2016
                                • 1556

                                #30
                                AFL website reports Super Coach Clarkson is under investigation for abusing umpire lol

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