Rnd 19 Pre-Match Thread, vs Brisbane at the GABBA 1:10 PM Sunday 21 July 2024

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  • Roadrunner
    Senior Player
    • Jan 2018
    • 1445

    #31
    Originally posted by crackedactor 01
    Really surprised we are not favorites to win this Sunday. Sportsbet has both teams at a $1.90. Maybe my bias is showing.
    Brisbane are hard to beat at home but if we can put 4 quarters together we can do it. I would rest Mills as this isn’t a must win game and we certainly need him for the finals. Why not give Hamling a go and also rest Amartey? Not that he needs a rest- more like a reality check!

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    • Nico
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      • Jan 2003
      • 11328

      #32
      All Amartey needs to do is play in front and lead up. It appears that Logan is the first choice full forward which gives us much better structure. Logan is way more consistent and showing why he was a high draft pick. Has genuine forward line nous.
      http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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      • waswan
        Senior Player
        • Oct 2015
        • 2047

        #33
        Originally posted by Nico
        All Amartey needs to do is play in front and lead up. It appears that Logan is the first choice full forward which gives us much better structure. Logan is way more consistent and showing why he was a high draft pick. Has genuine forward line nous.
        Basically play like a fwd, lead and jump.

        Only looks out of sorts when he tries to find a body first when contesting.

        Mclean more consistent, not always on though. No one in the team can take a pack mark like him when he is jumping at the ball.

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        • Nico
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          • Jan 2003
          • 11328

          #34
          Originally posted by waswan
          Basically play like a fwd, lead and jump.

          Only looks out of sorts when he tries to find a body first when contesting.

          Mclean more consistent, not always on though. No one in the team can take a pack mark like him when he is jumping at the ball.
          He thinks because he is tall he can mark over anyone. Play in front and he is hard to spoil.
          http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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          • waswan
            Senior Player
            • Oct 2015
            • 2047

            #35
            Originally posted by Nico
            He thinks because he is tall he can mark over anyone. Play in front and he is hard to spoil.
            Agree
            Attack as a fwd, never wait for it to come to you

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            • Thunder Shaker
              Aut vincere aut mori
              • Apr 2004
              • 4156

              #36
              Ladder positions of Brisbane's opponents at the Gabba:

              Carlton 2 (Lost by 1), Collingwood 12 (Lost by 20), North Melbourne 17 (Won by 70), Geelong 3 (Lost by 26), Gold Coast 11 (Won by 34), Richmond 18 (Won by 119), St Kilda 15 (Won by 20), Melbourne 8 (Won by 5), Adelaide (won by 11).

              Top 8 record: 1-2. (Only win being against Melbourne by 5 points)
              Bottom 10 record: 5-1. (The loss being against Collingwood early in the season.)

              Brisbane's home record against top 8 sides this year isn't stellar.

              Sydney's recent record at the Gabba is 1 win and 5 losses, but that record is bloated by 3 games in 2020 against Victorian clubs (all losses). Last 5 games against Brisbane are 3 wins and 2 losses. Overall, the record against Brisbane Lions is 12 wins, 1 draw and 7 losses.
              "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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              • The Big Cat
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                • Apr 2006
                • 2349

                #37
                Charlie Cameron free to play!
                Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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                • mcs
                  Travelling Swannie!!
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 8149

                  #38
                  Originally posted by The Big Cat
                  Charlie Cameron free to play!
                  Did they put up the 'good bloke' defence again.

                  What a lottery the system is now.
                  "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                  • dejavoodoo44
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                    • Apr 2015
                    • 8491

                    #39
                    Originally posted by mcs
                    Did they put up the 'good bloke' defence again.

                    What a lottery the system is now.
                    Well, this is from the AFL site story on the decision.

                    {Brisbane argued the Tribunal "put the cart before the horse" during Cameron's initial hearing by focusing on the Tribunal guidelines before determining whether the player had actually committed a reportable offence when tackling Duggan.

                    "The Tribunal reasoned backward from the conduct to conclude the conduct had a certain character to it," Lions lawyer Chris Winneke said.}

                    Which I guess is saying that because Duggan was is injured, the Tribunal wrongly decided that the tackle was illegal, rather than drawing the conclusion that the Duggan was unluckily injured in a legal tackle. Which I think is a reasonable argument, but it's bizarre that they have now accepted it, after they seem to have been ruling that sort of argument is unacceptable for years.

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                    • mcs
                      Travelling Swannie!!
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 8149

                      #40
                      Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
                      Well, this is from the AFL site story on the decision.

                      {Brisbane argued the Tribunal "put the cart before the horse" during Cameron's initial hearing by focusing on the Tribunal guidelines before determining whether the player had actually committed a reportable offence when tackling Duggan.

                      "The Tribunal reasoned backward from the conduct to conclude the conduct had a certain character to it," Lions lawyer Chris Winneke said.}

                      Which I guess is saying that because Duggan was is injured, the Tribunal wrongly decided that the tackle was illegal, rather than drawing the conclusion that the Duggan was unluckily injured in a legal tackle. Which I think is a reasonable argument, but it's bizarre that they have now accepted it, after they seem to have been ruling that sort of argument is unacceptable for years.
                      I gave up a long time trying to follow the logic across cases with the tribunal. What is said to be blue one week will be said to be orange the next and black the next.
                      "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                      • Nico
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                        • Jan 2003
                        • 11328

                        #41
                        I guess the slam tackle is back.
                        http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                        • mcs
                          Travelling Swannie!!
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 8149

                          #42
                          So the rumours floating around about a bit about Rowy being injured were right. Mills, Rowy and and Macca of course all out.

                          Cunningham and Heeney will clearly both come in, but be interesting who they go for out of the four on the extended list - Warner, Mitchell, Francis, and Sam Reid. Surely one of the midfield pair, but which one!
                          "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                          • dejavoodoo44
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                            • Apr 2015
                            • 8491

                            #43
                            And it'll be interesting to see how the Bedford appeal goes. Personally I thought the Cameron tackle was a fair bit worse than Bedford's effort. I suspect that the GWS legal representative might now try much the same argument, but with the Tribunal being the Tribunal, they'll probably deny that the Cameron decision sets a precedent and dismiss the appeal.

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                            • dejavoodoo44
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                              • Apr 2015
                              • 8491

                              #44
                              Originally posted by mcs
                              I gave up a long time trying to follow the logic across cases with the tribunal. What is said to be blue one week will be said to be orange the next and black the next.
                              Yes, I actually did that years ago, but recently I've taken an interest again. Unfortunately, I think my mental health is suffering because of that unwise decision.

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                              • mcs
                                Travelling Swannie!!
                                • Jul 2007
                                • 8149

                                #45
                                Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
                                Yes, I actually did that years ago, but recently I've taken an interest again. Unfortunately, I think my mental health is suffering because of that unwise decision.
                                There are some things we just shouldn't do in life.

                                Like me daring to suggest to a few Fairypuppies fans on another forum today that they had a huge run of luck as part of their Premiership in 2016, alongside their terrific performances in that final series. Quickly reminded me why I hate that club and its excessively insecure fans.
                                "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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