afl vs rugby league

[penga]

i am always fightin with my mates about the superior league (of course we all know that league is ****)

anyway so they always tell me about how good the players are and their skills are exceptional and ra ra ra ra ra, what a crock

anyways, i asked my mate what a league player will usually cover in a game, and when i said nathan buckley covered 19.1km last week he got all narky coz he knew he had lost

anyways, my question is... does anyone know how far the average stat is for distance run on a league game?

we then watched a bit of the replay of collingwood carlton match and he never stopped sayin that how all the players were standin around and werent sprintin and stuff, he also reckons that league players probably cover more than that of an afl player

im so sick of fightin with my mates about this, they should just bow down and realise that footy is the only game worth callin football and a sport...

[desredandwhite]

Y'know, it's funny. I spend a lot of time defending league to my Aussie rules mates, yet more time defending aussie rules to my league mates and the rest of the time defending soccer from the lot of 'em!!

They're different games, pure and simple. An average aussie rules player would get pounded into the dirt playing rugby or league, the average league player would be a wheezing asthmatic heap on the ground after 3 quarters of aussie rules and the lot of them would be completely lost on a soccer field.

Of course, you get exceptional players who could probably do pretty well at both, like Paul Kelly or Laurie Daley (covered in PK's new book!!!)

Also, it depends on the positions etc. You couldn't argue, for example, that Tony Lockett covered more ground in a match than a rugby league winger. League is all about short explosive sprinting and strength, aussie rules is more about longer term endurance and 360' awareness.

It's a useless argument (though perhaps not as useless as trying to discuss politics or religion!!). There is no known way that you can prove that one sport is "better" than another. Just enjoy them all

[Craig]

I disagree with you Des about AFL players being pounded if they played league. Look at the best league player - Andrew Johns. He is no bigger or stronger than almost any afl player, yet he doesn't get pounded does he. He is good because he is an excellent kick, I think afl players would have the wood over him on the kicking side. I'm not suggesting that an afl player could be as good as Johns, just using it as an example to show that they could actually play the game well.

Ok maybe footy players would get pounded if they were forwards, though they would make excellent half or full backs.

Daniel Chick would be a good league player.

[desredandwhite]

physically the same perhaps, but johns would be more used to the contact and hits of league - what I'm saying is that each sport requires different disciplines. it'd take a huge amount of work for a player from one to switch to the other and be immediately as good.

You're comparing two different things really. It's like saying apples are a tastier fruit than oranges.

all depends

[Craig]

Definately agree it's hard to compare as they are different sports. I guess I'm just saying that it would be easier to go to league from footy than from league to footy.

[Charlie]

In about 1950 RL and AR officials met and developed a game they thought would be the perfect blend of Footy and League. They wanted to create a national game. They then got two teams of players, I *think* they were from the VFL and NSWRL, and had them play a match to trial the new game.

It was so bad that it was NEVER suggested again, let alone played.

To me that shows that the two games shouldn't be compared.*









*Because Aussie Rules is 1,000,000,000,321.243 times better than thugby league... and don't get me STARTED on union!

[treespirit]

Originally posted by desredandwhite
physically the same perhaps, but johns would be more used to the contact and hits of league - what I'm saying is that each sport requires different disciplines. it'd take a huge amount of work for a player from one to switch to the other and be immediately as good.

You're comparing two different things really. It's like saying apples are a tastier fruit than oranges.

all depends

Everyone knows apples are better than oranges. Oranges don't keep the doctor away, after all.

[jude_boltons_babe]

i hate to say i love afl and nrl

huys send me to jail i love both afl and nrl

[vagary]

what's the difference between league and union?

[penga]

Originally posted by Craig
Look at the best league player - Andrew Johns. He is no bigger or stronger than almost any afl player

u gotta be kidding, i shook his hand at a powderfinger concert and he was short bout 5'8 but about 5'8 across his shoulders and about 5'8 deep in his chest... very solid boy

[penga]

i wasnt trying to compare the two games mainly and as des said noone will ever convince me that nrl is actually a sport (id rather see em run at a brick wall - about the same really)

my main question was does anyone know how far they actually run in an nrl game on average?

[bricon]

There are usually around 60 complete sets of tackles in an NRL game and each completion probably averages around 60 metres gained; there are a lesser number of incomplete sets (around 15 per game) where the gain would be very small. There are also occasional breaks by an individual and an allowance has to be made for players running back on-side etc.

Using this very rough scenario as a guide I reckon that the average NRL player would cover around 5 or 6 KM per match.

[penga]

Originally posted by bricon
There are usually around 60 complete sets of tackles in an NRL game and each completion probably averages around 60 metres gained; there are a lesser number of incomplete sets (around 15 per game) where the gain would be very small. There are also occasional breaks by an individual and an allowance has to be made for players running back on-side etc.

Using this very rough scenario as a guide I reckon that the average NRL player would cover around 5 or 6 KM per match.

seems like a pretty good educated estimate

now, who would run the least in an afl team (im thinking forward and back KPP)? and how far would they run???

[motorace_182]

This is a large topic for debate between me and my mates. I always compare the crowd sizes, they struggle to get 10,000 to most and are proud of 20,000. Then they say but so many games are played in Sydney of League and not AFL. But what about the 6million in NSW and i think 3.4 in VIC, and Syd alone has 4mill.

And then look at the smarts of the player. They are the dumbest iv ever met. Their skills are not even worth getting into and their fitness is pathetic. Only one player i can think of would match the AFL boys - Darryn Lockyer. He would be a darn good player, pity its wasted on a game like league.

League is like a modern form of union. My theory is that a few Union players got too soft with the yobbo rules and made union where the rules are a bit better. Without the rucking and a count for the tackle.

But what is the point of a league scrum?

[Charlie]

Ah.... league was actually a breakaway from union.... not the other way around.