Ultimate shape of the AFL

[timbo]

thats why there are 2 carrarra games next year.

there needs to be a relocation in the next five years to furthur support queensland.

[Troy G]

And only one in Darwin.

[taurus]

Originally posted by cruiser


I think the Western Bulldogs should relocate to Western Sydney.

I completely agree IF Bulldogs are not viable. My understanding is that they have excellent and innovative management, extracting maximum return from limited resouce/support, hence, not requring relocation in the present climate of generous AFL support.

I also agree, God forbid, with Graham from Bigfooty that a second Sydney team will benefit AFL AND Swans in the long run.

[legaff]

In 50 years time, where do u see the battle between the AFL and NRL at? Who will be winning? I think the AFL is definetly winning at the moment, and this trend will definetly continue.

I think its much easier for the AFL to penetrate new markets since we have an inherently more exciting game. the Storm will never grow much in status down in here in Melbourne. And i doubt very much that the NRL could penetrate the SA or WA markets.

I think Tasmania would be a better development area that Canberra. The AFL would obviously need to help build a stadium that is atleast as big as Optus Oval. I' think the AFL should wait atleast 10 years before introducing another team to Sydney. It just wouldn't be accepted there at the moment. The game needs more development in that area.

[Sanecow]

Hawks playing in Tassie and Carrara next year.

Source

They have to be favourites to move interstate soon!

[BeeEmmAre]

All this talk about a second team in Sydney is rubbish.
Remember what happened when the Kangaroos tried to move in our territory.
They got driven out just as quickly as they moved in simply because no one wanted them here and no one wanted to watch their games - that's why they're in Canberra and getting twice as many people to watch them there.
Until the Swans sell out the SCG/Stadium Australia on close to EVERY home game, a second team can't, and I dare say won't, happen.
While the fact the flag has come home where it belongs for the first time in 72 years should boost support for the game in Sydney no end, what I have seen living in the north west confirms my thoughts that nothing less than three premierships in the next half a dozen years will raise interest enough for the Dogs or anyone else to move here permanently.

[Swansinger]

Re: Ultimate shape of the AFL

Originally posted by Sanecow

3. Longer term. A team (Hawks?) to relocate to Tasmania. Requires a big name sponsor.
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Longer term - include a New Zealand team.

[Refried Noodle]

Why do people automatically think that the Kangaroos will succeed in Canberra?

I would love for it to happen, but they would be very lucky to even break the 10,000 average home crowd figure and the AFL and ACT government would have to always be bailing them out.

Canberrans are fickle but not as much as Sydneysiders (in general) IMO, but another top grade team in a city with just 310,000 people? I don't think we can support it until we're 500,000 minimum (and that won't happen for a while as our annual gorwth is 0.2%).

The Raiders and Brumbies get good crowds for our population, but another team might not work. Plus Manuka has only 9,000 seats and a capacity of 13-14,000 and all the rich bastards in the surrounding suburbs will prevent further upgrades.

The Gold Coast has a market for sport and the NRL has snatched that on up. Newcastle would effectively be a smaller Sydney.

Tassie seems to have the culture, but not the population and I keep hearing it wont work there and some sorta North South cultural rivalry divide in Tas.

[swansrule100]

Originally posted by Refried Noodle


Tassie seems to have the culture, but not the population and I keep hearing it wont work there and some sorta North South cultural rivalry divide in Tas.

lmao

there is a massive and stupid rivalry and constant fighting. I cant see a footy team working down here in tasmania at all. Aurora is only average, its way better than the ground was when you could park a car there, but the views from the stands are kinda crap when compared to the mcg and docklands etc!

[Sanecow]

Tassie manages to get over the Hobart / Launceston (Cascade / Boags) thing to support other state teams.


(Witness the resounding success of the basketball team )

[swansrule100]

we had wayne mcdaniel

[R-1]

Tasmania's also way too decentralised a population to support a team, methinks.

I can see Canberra working okay. Surely people would turn up... god knows there's nothing else to do down there. Maybe they could try to arrange it so their games are on alternating weekends with the Raiders.

Or maybe the Raiders could give up in the NRL and become an AFL team.

But then who would I support!? (Conundrums that will never happen.)

[goswannie14]

Originally posted by cruiser
I agree with relocating the Roos to Canberra and the sooner the better. AFL will need to invest some money in a venue first and probably a new ground rather than Manuka, which is too small and badly located insofar as parking goes.

I think the Western Bulldogs should relocate to Western Sydney.

Tassie most definately needs its own team. I tend to agree that Hawks would be most logical choice given their lower support in Melb. Demons are too Melbourne, Richmond (Tassie Tigers?) have too many supporters, as does the Saints.

Have you been reading my mind?

I ve been on the Tassie Tigers, Western Sydney Bulldogs and Canberra Kangaroos bandwagon for years. Everyone I know laughs at the suggestions

[goswannie14]

Originally posted by janpa
I can't see the AFL setting any of the above up - they are too controlled by Collingwood.

In the words of Rove..."What the..." Collingwood is only 1 of 16 teams in the AFL despite what some people may think they have only as much control over the AFL as the rest of the teams.

[liz]

My main "wish" for the AFL is a reduction of clubs to 14. I think a 26 round season would be viable and would eliminate the ridiculous nature of our draw.

That said, the demise of clubs is always sad and, although it was before my time, reading about the near demise of Sydney in the early nineties brings tears to my eyes.