Eade legacy at Swans now finished.

[Legs Akimbo]

At a tactical level, Eade was clearly ahead of his time and that got us quite a few games. His mistake was not to be even handed with players, but rather to play favourites (i.e. Filandia the love child). I think that eventually lost him the players' confidence and belief. Notable that some of the players still have a lot of time for him (i.e. MOL).

I think Roos picked up a lot of Eade's tactical nous, to our benefit this year. But Roos is clearly 'the great motivator' in the style of coaches like John Northey and Stan Alves. I think history shows you need that to be really succesful. Roos is the almost the complete package, whereas Eade was flawed.

Whether or not Eade has learnt from his mistakes will be known soon enough.

[Vivien]

I rate Eade as a very good coach. Sure, I didn't always agree with his methods but as others have said, his achievement was to bring a winning culture to the club.

Having said that, I think Roos is a better coach for this particular group of players. He clearly has great interpersonal skills (which perhaps Rodney lacked) - the ability to grasp the sort of mentoring that individual players require. And he has been most successful in extracting a great deal from his second and third tier players. However, there will come a time when Roos will no longer be the right man for the club, just as Eade was when he left. Different coaches are suited to different player groups. I think Eade is much better suited to the high-pressure environment of a Melbourne club, and so I believe he will do well at the Dogs.

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by swan_song
I was talking to a fellow swannie at the parade on friday about this...what is it with THIS goup of players that delivered a premiership, when we had star-studded teams in 86-87 and 96 to a lesser degree that couldn't...it came down to Roosie's coaching methods in the end we thought.

I'm still of the belief that a significant part of it was due to timing as well. This year was the most open the competition has been and the best opportunity we have had in years. All the cards fell right and we (finally) took advantage of them.

[swansrule100]

compared to the past before him eade was quite successful. I think he did a very good job and i wish him all the best at the doggies!

[Cher]

Re: Eade legacy at Swans now finished.

Originally posted by Bas

I think for too long, the Swans have had held an honour to Eade for getting them into a GF in his first year. Yet he couldn't do it again or get anywhere close to doing it in the next 7 years.

It was Ron Barassi who go us to that 96 Grand Final !!

[punter257]

Originally posted by Damien
So what? he got a player wrong? shoot him.

He made a contribution to the club, that should be remembered.

Roos was the first coach to win in 72 years - doesn't mean the many other coaches we have had since 1933 mean nothing in terms of what they were able to do.

Barrassi and then Eade were able to instill a winning culture into the club, very very important in the scheme of things.

what they said

[sharpie]

All coaches eventually lose the ability to reach players. The great ones just last a bit longer. He was a good coach for us, but his message got tired. By 2002, we needed a change and he needed a change. Simple as that IMO.

[SimonH]

What most people have said, i.e. a fundamentally talented coach who did good things at the club, whose time was up come 2002.

In particular, the 'no premiership with good players in 1996 therefore hopeless coach' theory is quite ridiculous. NMWB is quite right to say, in effect, 'We weren't facing a 1996 North Melbourne in this grand final'. Someone with more time on their hands than me could write a list of 10 teams that had more superstar players in them than our 1996 team, but never won a premiership (nor, in many cases, even made a grand final).

You have to be in it to win it (as we now know all too beautifully) and so the Eade/Roos achievement of making the finals 8 times in 10 years, a level of sustained performance that hasn't been seen around the club since the 1930s, is not one to be sneezed at.

[swan_song]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
I'm still of the belief that a significant part of it was due to timing as well. This year was the most open the competition has been and the best opportunity we have had in years. All the cards fell right and we (finally) took advantage of them.

I too think this is relevant, but I also think that had we got over Brisbane in the preliminary final of 2003, Collingwood were ripe for beating in the GF. So, to me, 2003 was also a year when the cards ALMOST fell in the right place...save for Roosie telling the team at three-quarter time that Cressa was retiring. And that shocking news would put 20lbs of lead into any one's legs! It's nice to speculate though on how Roosie would have done with say the 87 team, if there were a parallel universe, of course.

[Bas]

Originally posted by sharpie
All coaches eventually lose the ability to reach players.

In Sheedy's case, they just get rid of the players.

[ROK Lobster]

Bit hard on Rodney. I think he made some mistakes but I think he will make the Dogs a dangerous team over the next 2-3 years.

[taurus]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
I was very disappointed with the way Eade finished up at the Swans. I think he lost the players in his last few years. However, he did a great job before then and I think he's a very good coach. He'll be even better in his next time around now at the 'Dogs.

Agree. I think Eade has learned lot during his time-off and will make Bulldogs very competitive side.