holland gets two

[Schneidergirl]

This from the SMH

Holland pays price for striking Swan
August 27, 2003



Costly blow: Collingwood's Brodie Holland hits the Swans' Paul Williams.

Collingwood's Brodie Holland was suspended for two matches for an off-the-ball strike on Sydney's Paul Williams while Fremantle enjoyed good fortune at the AFL tribunal last night.

Docker Paul Medhurst was cleared of kicking Essendon's Danny Jacobs, while fellow Freo forward Jeff Farmer will also be available for the important match with West Coast after scrutiny of his clash with Bomber Andrew Welsh came to nothing.

Holland will miss Friday night's vital game against Essendon and also Collingwood's first final. Some observers had predicted he would get three weeks.

Holland let fly with a solid punch to the face of Williams 50 metres off the ball. It was the Magpie's second striking charge this season.

Collingwood tried to portray Williams as the villain. The club's advocate chose not to confront the Swans midfielder with the accusations when he was being questioned, but afterwards said Williams had struck Holland first with a "jumper punch" to the face.

"It was only because Paul Williams has got his back to the camera that he is not sitting alongside Brodie Holland tonight," advocate Sean Carroll said.

Holland relied heavily on that argument, pleading guilty under provocation.

"I was stunned, I was shocked, I got a blow to the mouth and jaw and in an instinctive reaction I threw my arm straight back," Holland said. "I'm not proud of what I did but I didn't hurt the player and it was nothing too untoward.

"I am embarrassed about what I did, I don't usually do that on the footy field."

The tribunal found Holland's retaliation was "out of all proportion to what preceded it", but did take into account character evidence from Magpies coach Mick Malthouse and the guilty plea in invoking the sentence.

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Correct me if I'm mistaken, but neither of them (Holland or Williams) had there back to the camera. Hmmmmm....

[swan_song]

Originally posted by gossipcom
... in an instinctive reaction I threw my arm straight back," Holland said.

Does this mean that as well as being a phylthy little pie ****, he's also a liar...

[Glenn]

Originally posted by swan_song
Does this mean that as well as being a phylthy little pie ****, he's also a liar...

Hmm well seeing there has been no evidence of Willo striking the thug I would say YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TheHood]

Did you see how Eddie has declared that the CFC was close to bringing legal action against the HS? I mean seriously, if he had any case or the necessary minerals, he would have. The only reason they didn't is because the HS would have made life hell for them.

I can see the negative articles on CFC for the next 10 years, I mean CFC would win the flag by a point after the siren and the headline would read:

"Collingwood finally break torturous drought with ho hum victory"

Brodie brought this heat on himself, 3 striking suspensions, 2 this year and he is getting complaints gallore from those that he tags.

[scurrilous]

Originally posted by Jason Nevins
Yes, the AFL hates Sydney. I must have misread the statistics that said Sydney 14 more free kicks...

OMG! Jason, is that really ALL you can come up with? Why bother wasting your time here if that is all you have? I mean, even your Tony Locket reference in another thread was "5 year old mentality" repertoire

I implore you...

If you require some coaching tips on how to bait and troll, just PM me. Hell, I'll even get my dog to write you some new material to use. It'll be damn better than stale stuff your feeding us at this very moment.

[scurrilous]

Originally posted by Jason Nevins
That's what the timekeeper said to himself on Saturday Night to help him sleep.

"Within the rules"...

And that's what the channel 9 cameramen, filming the last coll v carl game, said after being paid off by Eddie.

[scurrilous]

Originally posted by Jason Nevins
On that basis why can't you get over Brodie?

Jason, why don't you just leave this board, go driving with your buddy Brodie, pull your old fellas out and play soggy biscuit together. I'm sure Brodie can teach you how to play THAT game.

[scurrilous]

Originally posted by TheMase
I didn't see Sydney get many free kicks for Collingwood holding hte ball. So what is your point? The umpires were consistant on their ruling on the night. There were few paid to either team, and they let it go.

The free kicks to us were high tackles and push in the backs.
I think you actually miunderstand the game. We had more of the ball, we lost the game. We did nothing with the footy, you were efficient.At the end of the day that is it.

We were first to the ball, we just did nothing with it. Protect the man in front, number one rule in umpiring...

Look Masey, just let Jason be. He's been back to his Black and White la la land where everything he reads is gospel.

I never go to opposition boards, but I bet my bottom dollar that the guys over at Nick's are having a field day with the free kicks non-issue. In fact they are probably all talking so much about it that every opinion spoken about it has become fact. Jason is just "pea-washed" (sic. collingwood term for brainwashed) he can't be helped or reasoned with. Let him be.

/goto Something about Mary...
"Beans and Franks, Beans and Franks"
"He was masturbating. He was masturbating"
/end Something about Mary

[CureTheSane]

Originally posted by snajik
Not just a wanker thug, but a liar to boot.

Well, by the logic of Wobbles supporters, he won't be playing for them next year, as they DEMAND total honesty from their players

Personally, I feel that between 2 and 3 weeks was about right, considering 1 or 2 of those would be finals.

By my rule of thumb a suspension of a final, is worth 2 H&A games.
So had it been considered a 5 week (H&A game) offense, then he would have been out for 3.

Willo DID put his fist to Hollands chin, that is clear in the footage, so I guess they maybe took a week or 2 off because of that.

Don't really like that logic though.
If Willo did something wrong, then charge him.
Otherwise, it should be judged as a stand alone incident.

[scurrilous]

Originally posted by Ruda Wakening
Wouldn't this mean that if he hit PW with a normal immediate reflex/instinctive action, he would have contacted his face front on, not side on when PW was practically walking away ?

Brodie must still be a bit on the slow side. It must have been a case of the old delayed reaction .

Karma Brodie, karma ...

exactly my thought when I read that comment Ruda. I actually burst out laughing.

2 weeks? meh, it shoulda been 3. But it is finals time. The AFL tribunal is a farce.

[Pink_Lady]

Eddie: For 1 Million- How many weeks will Brodie Holland get?
A. 4 B. 2 C. None or D. 5
Tribunal- I'd like to lock in B. 2 Eddie
Eddie- Final answer? Are you sure? Don't want to change your mind?
T- No, lock it in.
E- Are you sure?
T- Yes, 100%
E- For the million, the question was asked, you answered that Brodie will get 2 weeks....for 1 million....the answer is......C...sorry, but you do leave here with $750,000 anyway. Thanks for playing my game MY WAY...

2 weeks is pathetic....and saying that Willo provocted him is cowardly...love it where he says he was 'embarrased by it', sure you are Brodie, and that's probably why you'll do it again, and again and again.

And another thing- has anyone heard about Eddie spouting off that he was one main reason that there was such a big crowd on Saty night? Well I certainly didn't go for him, and of the 70,000 odd swans supporters, if anyone did decided to brave the cold and rain for Eddie, it was to BOO him and send him on his merry way!

[Nico]

Everyone is missing a very relevant fact in this whole issue.

WHERE WAS THE BLOODY THIRD UMPIRE?

Wasn't the main reason they gave for a 3rd umpire to pick up this behind the play stuff. And why not throw in the emergency umpire. What was he doing at the time?

This point has not been raised by anyone in the media.

If they were doing their job Willo would have had a free kick on the goal line, which indeed may have changed the flow of the game.

To say that I am pissed off by this fact is the understatement of the century so far.

[penga]

Originally posted by Nico
WHERE WAS THE BLOODY THIRD UMPIRE?

standing right behind the two looking at the play and not the incident...

[Jason Nevins]

Originally posted by scurrilous
And that's what the channel 9 cameramen, filming the last coll v carl game, said after being paid off by Eddie.

If you're going to troll champ, at least stick to the facts. The incident you refer to occured in the second quarter.

[Glenn]

Hmmm unless I am missing something there is no mention of what quarter it happend in