Media trade speculation

[SWANSBEST]

In regard to Carlton 's pick no 2 there is also talk that Carlton may use it to pick up Nick Stevens from Port.

[robbieando]

From all reports the only way Stevens will go to Carlton is though the pre season draft. With regards to us trading for Pick No 2, it seems unlikely, but from what it says above its more than likely that it will be a deal that includes Saddo. Problem is we can't package a 1st and 2nd Round pick into the deal as Carlton are banned from trading into these Rounds.

[Dpw]

Originally posted by robbieando
From all reports the only way Stevens will go to Carlton is though the pre season draft. With regards to us trading for Pick No 2, it seems unlikely, but from what it says above its more than likely that it will be a deal that includes Saddo. Problem is we can't package a 1st and 2nd Round pick into the deal as Carlton are banned from trading into these Rounds.

Hey Robbie,

What "IF" O'Keefe wanted to go home and we chucked him in with Saddo and nicks as well would this = value to Carlton two young players and a utillity who would easy be in there best 22.

I think two early picks and our second round pick could be a very sound base for the future and chuck in J. Mcviegh (5th overall i think last year) and we are off.

[Go Swannies]

I spoke to Ryan about this last night and his response was "why is everyone talking to me about being traded? I don't want to leave. Where did the rumour start?" Then someone else came up and asked him about leaving. If he's not I can understand why he's confused.

[Reggi]

Originally posted by Go Swannies
I spoke to Ryan about this last night and his response was "why is everyone talking to me about being traded? I don't want to leave. Where did the rumour start?" Then someone else came up and asked him about leaving. If he's not I can understand why he's confused.

Best news I've heard keep the lad

[robbieando]

Originally posted by Dpw
Hey Robbie,

What "IF" O'Keefe wanted to go home and we chucked him in with Saddo and nicks as well would this = value to Carlton two young players and a utillity who would easy be in there best 22.

I think two early picks and our second round pick could be a very sound base for the future and chuck in J. Mcviegh (5th overall i think last year) and we are off.

I wouldn't trade more than 2 players to ANY club to gain a draft pick. If Carlton said OK we want O'Keefe and Saddo for pick no 2 I would send them packing. I would be willing to give up either (O'Keefe only if he states that he want to go home) along with Nicks. I doubt though we would be able to get a deal done for Pick 2 unless the AFL go back and allow Carlton to trade into Rounds 1 and 2 and any deal would include us giving up pick 17.

In terms of setting us up for the future I agree with you however we HAVE to be careful that it doesn't effect the balance of our squad

[neored]

Originally posted by Rob-bloods
Actually very little time, methinks you are not half as sharp as you think you are Neo(inb)red. I don't sit and write ponderous tomes on rivals websites, get a life old chap!

I actually meant 'impone' and hit a wrong key..

And yet you seem to be almost preoccupied with replying to my posts. It appears that you have a subconscious need to impress people with your limited wit.

Ah yes, its always a typing error isn't it? No doubt as soon as you had noticed I had spotted your spelling error, you quickly raced off to find Hamlet, desperate to regain face.

[liz]

Originally posted by robbieando
From all reports the only way Stevens will go to Carlton is though the pre season draft. With regards to us trading for Pick No 2, it seems unlikely, but from what it says above its more than likely that it will be a deal that includes Saddo. Problem is we can't package a 1st and 2nd Round pick into the deal as Carlton are banned from trading into these Rounds.

Carlton actually face a trading/recruiting dilemma at the moment. There is talk of them losing as many as 14 players from this year's list. Four of those are retirees, and it's hard to think they are going to be get anything in return for the likes of Plunkett, Mathews, Beaumont (maybe a 3rd round pick), Franchina or any of the others not deemed good enough to be on their list.

So how do they actually get enough players on their list to field an even semi-competitive team? They are possibly resigned to a spoon next year, with the bonus of the first two picks that would probably net them (subject to no other team being bad enough to sneak in for a priority). But it won't do their kids any good if they get thrashed week in week out.

So maybe they are better off trading one of their better players (say Whitnall or Campo) and their second round pick for a handful of decent players who can contribute immediately, rather than trying to net a top quality player.

My initial thought was that there's no way we could get the no 2 pick with what we are prepared to give up. But if the club is willing to part with Saddo and one other player (not game enough to suggest who) maybe it's a possibility. There are unlikely to be too many tallish players being traded, particularly now that Rawlings seems Kangas bound, and Saddo would be a better option for Carlton, I'd have thought, than, say Holland or Richardson.

[Nico]

I just don't understand this talk about Saddo and O'Keefe. We have one of the shrewdest football brains around in Andrew Ireland. In his first year at the club they resign Saddo.

Saddo got married this year and apparently owns a pretty handy pad in Sydney. So you reckon he might be pretty settled.

If they trade a player under contract the selling club may still have to carry some of the player's salary.

We are not over endowed with backmen so why sacrifice depth in that part of the field.

Sounds like O'keefe wants to stay. And why wouldn't we do everything possible to keep a player who looks like he could be a match winner in the making. He played in the midfield as a junior and towards the end of the season was moving a lot quicker around the ground. Maybe he has taken time to get the pace of the game but is now a genuine emerging player who could be a top midfielder. Disposal by foot is very good.

[swansrock4eva]

Just because you have a nice little pad doesn't mean you're set to stay - if the club trades you, you're gone, pad or not.

I'm not one for seeing saddo go, but if it gives us an advantage of sorts, be it short term or long term, then maybe that's a chance to take. You don't get anywhere in the big league by playing it safe.

[Bas]

With regard to OKeefe, the only reason he is being mentioned as trade is because someone thought that he might want to go back to his family after the death of his younger brother. I thought he may have left at the end of last year for this reason.

However, it seems that from what was said at last night's B&F he has no intention of going which will be great for the Club.

A high draft pick would make November exciting.

[BAM_BAM]

Originally posted by Go Swannies
I spoke to Ryan about this last night and his response was "why is everyone talking to me about being traded? I don't want to leave. Where did the rumour start?" Then someone else came up and asked him about leaving. If he's not I can understand why he's confused.

I have been waiting all day for someone to post this.

YAY. I'm so glad HE has finally said he wants to stay.

[BAM_BAM]

Originally posted by lizz
now that Rawlings seems Kangas bound,

sorry if this has been posted and I haven't seen it, or if this is what you meant Lizz, but I just heard on a news update that he has actually signed with the Kanga's?? could be wrong, but I'm sure that's what was said

[SWANSBEST]

Rawlings may well have signed with the Roos but he will not play for them unless the Hawks are satisified with the trades offered .

[Steve]

Originally posted by swansrock4eva
... if the club trades you, you're gone, pad or not.

Any trade requires 3 signatures:

Club A
Club B
Player

If you're under contract and don't want to leave, you don't. Mercuri, Harford etc etc.

I suppose in a very strange way it is good that we'd have to convince guys to leave. I would hope it isn't Saddo though.