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  • SWANSBEST
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    • Jan 2003
    • 868

    Lekkas would be a handy Swan

    I know that he is 27 but he would have 5 years left as a player at the top level. The Hawks are making it difficult for themselves in their pursuit of Nathan Brown . A lot of their other players would also be upset IMO.




    Lekkas losing faith in Hawks
    02 October 2003 Herald Sun
    By MICHAEL STEVENS

    HAWTHORN midfielder Angelo Lekkas could join teammate Jade Rawlings in flying the Hawks nest.



    Unhappy: Angelo Lekkas is another Hawk looking for a change of scenery next season.



    Rawlings told coach Peter Schwab yesterday that he was quitting the club.

    And Lekkas, 27, third in the best-and-fairest last year and tipped for a top-two finish this season, is furious at the latest developments.

    Lekkas, yet to re-sign, had almost committed to a new deal on the basis that Rawlings was also staying.

    Lekkas said last night he was uncertain about his playing future.

    "Obviously I will be dealing with Hawthorn, but I think I'll weigh everything up now," he said.

    "I'm really frustrated with Hawthorn footy club at the moment.

    "There's a lot of players suffering because of bad past management.

    "When we were negotiating my contract, I told the club I did not want them to go to the paper and say I'd recommitted because we were still negotiating.

    "But they did and it's come out that I've signed and I just haven't done that. That was in the middle of negotiations, so I was really disappointed they did that to me.

    "But they've also made players take up to 20 per cent pay cuts and the players were assured if they do that they'd keep Rawlings and myself. "We've lost Rawlings and yet you hear they're talking to players like Nathan Brown who are after so much money. And, like, where's all that coming from?"

    His manager Jacques Khouri said last night that all negotiations between the club and Lekkas were on the basis that Rawlings was signed.

    "Angelo is a bit insulted with it all," Khouri said last night from Surfers Paradise.

    "He's been paid a pittance for a long, long time and now we're just saying let's just up the ante a bit, but they haven't negotiated in the right manner.

    "All the negotiations for Angelo were on the basis of Rawlings staying.

    "We gave a lot of leeway on that basis, in terms of income and that sort of thing, and now we find they didn't have him (Rawlings) signed in the first place.

    "If we had known they didn't have him signed we would have negotiated on different terms altogether.

    "We were trying to do the right thing by the club."

    "They said, `We're trying to keep `Ang' here, we've got Jade on board and he's taken a pay cut, blah, blah, blah," Khouri said. "I'm really disappointed with the whole situation."

    Khouri said he had put off clubs who were interested in out-of-contract Lekkas, the Hawks' second leading goalkicker (37) and a major possession-winner this season.

    "We've told them we're not interested because everything's right with the club," Khouri said. "But it just changes and that's really disappointing. I played golf with Nathan Brown not long ago and Carlton were offering in excess of $550,000 (a season).

    "Hawthorn are going to come to him and offer at least that sort of figure, when again we were given assurances that no player was being pursued at that level of income because of the severity of the financial problems of the footy club.

    "There's really no goodwill there. We'll just have to . . . sit down with (chief executive) Steve Leighton and see what we do from here."

    Leighton said last night he did not want to comment until he had spoken to Khouri.
    Last edited by SWANSBEST; 2 October 2003, 04:07 PM.
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  • Reggi
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    • Jan 2003
    • 2718

    #2
    Would be handy but he's a bit old - good player - but probably played his best already

    - Interesting that he nominates the attempted recruitment of Nathan Brown as one of the reason's he's leaving

    - The Australian says that Ken Wood will hand down in a couple of days whether S&Don were cheating the salary cap paying J Hird and Lloyd for the Internet names - are for mine pretty obviously.

    If so they may be banned from the draft (ha ha ha).

    Also noted that Croad is set to leave Fremantle



    This whole trade period could be interesting - especially for those clubs that keep their head
    Last edited by Reggi; 2 October 2003, 07:42 AM.
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    • Ryan Bomford
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      • Sep 2003
      • 652

      #3
      Yeah,

      May be worth a look - seems to be in the best form of his career. And if he's pissed off, he may come relatively cheaply.

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      • swan_song
        I'm SO over the swans!
        • Jan 2003
        • 981

        #4
        Pretty handy player though not one of the superstars Roosie is after , but for me would definitely be worth exploring further... my only worry woukd be his age...but a two-year deal with an option for a year may be good. However, Id not want us to give too much away...maybe a 2nd round pick...
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        • NMWBloods
          Taking Refuge!!
          • Jan 2003
          • 15819

          #5
          Originally posted by Reggi
          Would be handy but he's a bit old - good player - but probably played his best already
          This is the sort of age-related rubbish I am sick of seeing here. A number of players hit their peak form in their late 20s.

          He'd be coming to us a few months younger than Williams was when he arrived at the Swans. He's only 4 months older than Kirk, 5 months older than Schauble, 8 months older than O'Loughlin and Hall, 11 months older than Leo Barry.

          Lekkas would be very handy for our side - a useful forward or midfield option, averaging 19 possessions per game and kicked 37.10. Good at clearances (third for Hawthorn), and also a tough player - third in their tackles.
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          • Charlie
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            • Jan 2003
            • 4101

            #6
            It would only be an incremental improvement in the list - nothing more. We need to stick to our targets - KP defender, then ruckman, then midfielder. We have plenty of players who can fill the role that Lekkas does at Hawthorn... he's much like Matthew Nicks, only better at it.
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            • NMWBloods
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              • Jan 2003
              • 15819

              #7
              Firstly, he's better at it than Nicks, so he is certainly useful.

              Secondly, you don't just trade for one or two superstars - you also carefully consider incremental improvements.

              Thirdly, I think he would give our midfield a lift, which we need. In possessions per game, he'd be ranked second on our list, in "ball gets" third, in marks fourth, in goals third, Inside 50s equal third, marks inside 50 fourth, in tackles second, and in clearances fourth!!
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              • ugg
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                • Jan 2003
                • 15970

                #8
                Not saying he won't be good for us, but I just baulk at what we may have to give up. This just reeks of the years following 96 when we decided to top up with players rather than going for the best youngsters in the draft.
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                • sharp9
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                  • Jan 2003
                  • 2508

                  #9
                  I'd definitely take him. Part of his unhappiness with Hawthorn is that he has to play half forward when he is an absolute gun on the ball. Hawks are so lacking for goalkickers that he is always played upfield leaving their host of younger smaller players in the midfield. This is the flow on for the Hawks having about 5 KPP players down with injury (leading also to Rawlings' ridiculously good one off season and high asking price - he was their only target all season).

                  Lekkas would be fantastic in our midfield - we have plenty of half forwards. He can really get his hands on the ball and his distribution is really good. Good team man too. Hence if he finishes top three yet again in the B & F when he is on 180 and Harford is on 300, Holland on 450 then he is well entitled to look for a better deal. Hawk fans are absolutely rancid this morning BTW!

                  The thing about being 27 (look at Kirk) is that even mediumly built players rcan reach a level of toughness that a very talented 22 year old does not have (unless he is a freak).
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                  • Rob-bloods
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                    • Aug 2003
                    • 931

                    #10
                    Lekkas would be good for us, one of their best, but if he has quit Hawthorn then chances are he will already have an eye on a Melbourne club. We have to face facts we do not have much sway in the draft unless you want to give up a GOOD player! Our best chances are a lucky pick in the preseason where everyone else has filled their cap. However, with Richmond Carlton and even Port having big clearouts there are plenty of holes in lists to fill.
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                    • motorace_182
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                      • Jan 2003
                      • 961

                      #11
                      If its the right price take him, if he is unhappy at Hawthorn then he will be looking for a change of scenery which many turn to us for
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                      • sharpie
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                        • Jul 2003
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                        #12
                        This guy is an absolute gun player. A midfielder who can rack up 25-30 touches and kick 3 goals in a match. He is one of my favourite players outside the Swans, and is quite under-rated. He would bolster our midfield enormously.

                        And why on earth would anyone want to take pay cuts to stay at Hawthorn? I can understand the Brisbane players doing it to stay together, but Hawthorn? You have got to be kidding. The only reason you'd want to stay is if they got rid of Schwab and brought in a real coach. Or maybe I'm being too harsh on the coach, and its the players who are @@@@, in which case, why would the club be asking them all to take pay cuts to stay?

                        While we're at it, we should offer Jonathon Hay a contract too! That'd kill 2 birds with one stone .
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                        • DST
                          The voice of reason!
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 2705

                          #13
                          Originally posted by NMWBloods
                          This is the sort of age-related rubbish I am sick of seeing here. A number of players hit their peak form in their late 20s.

                          He'd be coming to us a few months younger than Williams was when he arrived at the Swans. He's only 4 months older than Kirk, 5 months older than Schauble, 8 months older than O'Loughlin and Hall, 11 months older than Leo Barry.

                          Lekkas would be very handy for our side - a useful forward or midfield option, averaging 19 possessions per game and kicked 37.10. Good at clearances (third for Hawthorn), and also a tough player - third in their tackles.
                          As said on a previous thread NMWBloods, I totally agree with you.

                          Since when has this youth mantra everbody is suddenly subscribing too become all encompassing.

                          The fact is Lekkas would be fantastic for our club at this point in time and the perfect replacement for Cresswell.

                          DST
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                          • DST
                            The voice of reason!
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 2705

                            #14
                            Originally posted by ugg
                            Not saying he won't be good for us, but I just baulk at what we may have to give up. This just reeks of the years following 96 when we decided to top up with players rather than going for the best youngsters in the draft.
                            Absolute bull@@@@,

                            This has nothing to do with 96 and all to do with getting us an even, experienced, flexible team now. Not only to help the current team fufil the promise it has shown this year but also to provide leadership and guidance to the player that are our future such McVeigh, Dempster, Thewlis, LRT, Hunt, Powell etc

                            We can't have a team of 20 years old running around each week, just look at St Kilda over the last few years and the Bullies this year to see that does not work and hinders the younger players development.

                            DST
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                            • ugg
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                              • Jan 2003
                              • 15970

                              #15
                              And do you realistically think Hawthorn would let their leading goal kicker go on the cheap? Please don't let the Davis deal from last year make you think that we can snag him for a 4th round pick or something similar. The situations are totally different, we don't have as much leverage. I would love to have Lekkas at the club, but I don't realistcally see it happening without us losing some high draft picks a la the Ball and Williams deals.
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