Mal Michael Likely To Be Traded

[Reggi]

Don't reckon there would have been anyone more relieved on the planet than Mal Michael when Rocca was suspended

[chammond]

Mal Michael is the best Full Back in the business. I can't believe anyone would even suggest that there's not a spot for him in our side. You make room, for a player of his quality.

You'd better believe it.

And he ain't the best fullback in the business, not even close.

And we have a very sound defensive strategy that works both in theory and in practice. Bringing in a defender like Michael would change the whole way our defence plays. Why would we make room for him, when he would only be useful against a handful of strong forwards (that Schauble is already handling very well)?

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by chammond
And he ain't the best fullback in the business, not even close.

Who are the best full backs in the business?

Fletcher... and then um... who else...?

[Reggi]

There different really

Fletcher and Scarlett are the best stoppers


I think S Silvagni said Schauble only had 28 goals or so kickedon him which is an amazing effort

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by Reggi
Fletcher and Scarlett are the best stoppers


I think S Silvagni said Schauble only had 28 goals or so kickedon him which is an amazing effort

Ah yes, Scarlett was the other one I was trying to think of.

Schauble had an excellent year.

[robbieando]

Originally posted by chammond
And we have a very sound defensive strategy that works both in theory and in practice. Bringing in a defender like Michael would change the whole way our defence plays. Why would we make room for him, when he would only be useful against a handful of strong forwards (that Schauble is already handling very well)?

chammond you have made the most valid point, Michael wouldn't fit into our style of play or at the very least would force Schauble out of the team because both are simular players (one better than the other)

We need a K/P defender granted, but this player needs to be able to set up attacks and for me the better option would be Bradshaw because of his added mobilty.

[chammond]

Fletcher and Scarlett are the best stoppers

And far more mobile than Michael.

The Wakelins are both pretty good, as is Hart. Not as strong as Michael but better marks, and tactically very sound. Hay is probably as strong as Michael and a bit quicker, but doesn't seem to be the brightest star in the sky.

Michael is a good player, and would be handy in any squad, but I don't see any club parting with much to get him - probably someone roughly as good as Jarrod Molloy?

[Reggi]

Wakelin's are a bit in and miss - ie Hall did smash Daryl in a final.

Hart is more a back pocket who can pinch hit on key forwards - dare I say a bit like C Bolton.

I think Brisbane have deliberately opted for a more aggresive attacking backline - whereas say C/wood have a more dour defensive unit.

There aren't that many that are consistently good against all types like say Silvagni was.

Has to be said that Michael tends to struggle against forward who are really quick - or really strong. He probably captures the imagination a bit - he is the most exciting to watch.

[chammond]

There aren't that many that are consistently good against all types like say Silvagni was.

Okay, I agree that we should make it a club rule that if someone as good as Silvagni comes along we will make room for him in the team.

I think Brisbane have deliberately opted for a more aggresive attacking backline

It's also interesting how many of Brisbane's defenders start as forwards or midfielders (and pretty good ones at that). Even Craig Bolton played much of his junior/reserves football as an on-baller IIRC.

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by Reggi
Wakelin's are a bit in and miss - ie Hall did smash Daryl in a final.

Hart is more a back pocket who can pinch hit on key forwards - dare I say a bit like C Bolton.

Yep - this is my view of these players. Michael is better than them or plays in a different position against different players.

I think Brisbane have deliberately opted for a more aggresive attacking backline

Has to be said that Michael tends to struggle against forward who are really quick - or really strong. He probably captures the imagination a bit - he is the most exciting to watch.

Michael does struggle against the quicker forwards, such as Tarrant and Rocca, but he does beat the forwards who like to play body-on-body and most teams have one of those and will continue to do so.

I don't think it matters too much that one guy in your last line of defence is not the most attacking. I doubt it would slow down our rebound from the backline - doesn't seem to hurt Brisbane's.

Would it be a problem having Schauble and Michael in the same back line? Maybe, although I think Schauble could do a fine job at CHB and already runs down the ground a fair bit. Also, our drive comes from our HBF and BP, so I think that would still be there.

A Jonathon Hay type would be my preference, however they are very hard to find and Hay himself is probably not the most intelligent of footballers, as CH says.

I don't think Brisbane will lose Michael - he is too important to their backline.

[Gunn]

Michael is the best full back in the business? Brisbane is getting rid of the best full back in the business? I don't think so. If Brisbane clears or puts Michael up for trade then they clearly don't share that opinion. Nobody clears the best full back in the business, particularly when they have other options.

To say he has a weakness against fast breaking forwards is to admit to a big exploitable weakness. What dumbass forward would stand in the goal square and try and out manouvre Michael when he could make a quick lead and mark unopposed 15 metres ahead of Michael?

I'd take him but wouldn't give much.

[liz]

Originally posted by robbieando
or at the very least would force Schauble out of the team because both are simular players (one better than the other)

Schauble would be our answer at CHB if he were free to play there. It's where he's played his best footy - certainly where he won the Swans' B&F a few years ago. I have no problems with the job Schaubs is doing at FB but I think he'd be more value at CHB if we had the option.

[robbieando]

Originally posted by lizz
Schauble would be our answer at CHB if he were free to play there. It's where he's played his best footy - certainly where he won the Swans' B&F a few years ago. I have no problems with the job Schaubs is doing at FB but I think he'd be more value at CHB if we had the option.

Sadly I don't think Schauble has the pace to play CHB anymore or at least the style of CHB that Roos' tactics need. I'm happy to leave Schauble at FB and have a Bradshaw at CHB

[Reggi]

It depends what you want - at one end you can go for the Prestiagiacomo type - get about 8 possesssions a game but generally keeps his man quiet.

At the other end you can get an attacking type like Leppisch or Michael and risk more goals - but be stronger on the rebound.

There are few that are good at both.

Personally I'd rather watch the attacking types - you'd prefer an afternoon at the Laundromat to one watching Prestiagiacomo.

We already have a pretty good 'stopper' in Schauble - there are really only a couple of clubs that use two 'stronger' forward (Bris and Port).

I think we need an attacking type who can manage quicker leading forwards well.

Leppitsch would do nicely

Generally speaking I doubt we have a defence problem - funny that our midfield which is one of the most mediocre in the comp gets little attention

[i'm-uninformed2]

As a new user, I'd like to agree with all those people against us looking at Mal Michael.

I mean, why would we want a triple-premiership winning player held in high regard by someone of Leigh Matthews' calibre?

And I agree - he was flogged by Plugger when Michael was 21 and had only played about 50 games and Plugger was the greatest full forward of all time at his peak.

And I agree with those who say he'd give us no run . . . I mean, clearly Brisbane has had none for the past three years.

And I agree - why would we want a strong-bodied, key position player at the peak of his career?

No, I just agree