Mal Michael Likely To Be Traded

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  • Craig
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    • Jan 2003
    • 225

    #46
    Originally posted by Charlie
    Most definitely NOT.

    More like our first pick, plus perhaps Fosdike. To make up for a perceived uneven deal, we could give Brisbane what they really want - salary cap relief - by paying all of his salary... that's rare for traded players these days.

    People seem to forget, Shane Woewodin was worth only pick #16 last year... Davis #23, Blumfield #30. The market value of draft picks is VERY inflated, but that should work to our advantage in a trade where we were targetting a player.
    Agreed.

    Trading Tadgh would be out of the question.

    Our first draft pick and Fosdike or Nicks seems reasonable.

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    • Charlie
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      • Jan 2003
      • 4101

      #47
      Originally posted by Craig
      Lighten up mate.

      There is nothing wrong with differing opinions, everyone is entitled to theirs. The way he wrote his post was humorous, hardly a rampage.
      Well, it all depends on the reader I suppose... to me - and, I presume, to Reggi as well - it was a pretty arrogant post. Rather than merely presenting his views, he was belittling others... and then he turns around in his second post and questions the intellectual worth of RWO itself. That's not the way people endear themselves to me. Presenting views in a reasonable fashion will. If you found it funny, more power to you.

      But, that's not to say that I don't want him to stick around or anything. The more people on RWO, the more voters for next year's TLM!
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      • robbieando
        The King
        • Jan 2003
        • 2750

        #48
        Originally posted by Craig
        Agreed.

        Trading Tadgh would be out of the question.

        Our first draft pick and Fosdike or Nicks seems reasonable.
        It would be for a package of draft picks, no Swans players going the other way. Brisbane would only trade him to releave their salary cap. I very much doubt he'll come onto the market in the next week or so because Brisbane are still in talks with him in regards to a new contract. If he becomes available I think it will be after this week and he'll most likely end up in the pre season draft and then taken by either the Dogs or the Dees.

        Brisbane are doing everything they can to keep him
        Once was, now elsewhere

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        • lizz
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          Site Admin
          • Jan 2003
          • 16778

          #49
          Originally posted by Charlie

          More like our first pick, plus perhaps Fosdike. To make up for a perceived uneven deal, we could give Brisbane what they really want - salary cap relief - by paying all of his salary... that's rare for traded players these days.

          Salary cap relief by paying his whole salary is irrelevant in these circumstances - Michael is out of contract.

          I can't see what interest Fosdike would have for Brisbane given the midfield they already have.

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          • NMWBloods
            Taking Refuge!!
            • Jan 2003
            • 15819

            #50
            Originally posted by Charlie
            Well, it all depends on the reader I suppose... to me - and, I presume, to Reggi as well - it was a pretty arrogant post. Rather than merely presenting his views, he was belittling others... and then he turns around in his second post and questions the intellectual worth of RWO itself.
            You mean other people here don't do that...

            Other people openly suggest that people's opinions are crap. Other people believe that the "faceless fanatics" should not have opinions, but instead leave the views up to the club, yet feel free enough to comment when they want to.

            Everyone here is entitled to have a view. Everyone is entitled to disagree with that view. Everyone is entitled to present arguments against that view. Everyone is entitled to poke a bit of fun.

            As for his post, it wasn't evenly vaguely arrogant. He was simply having a bit of a dig and presenting his views at the same time.
            Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

            "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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            • Newbie
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              • Mar 2003
              • 720

              #51
              I doubt Brisbane would be remotely interested in Forside or Nicks who add nothing to them. By trading Mal Michael they will create a huge hole in their team structure. I doubt they would do that without getting someone back who could improve their team substantially.

              What Brisbane is perceived to lack is some pace in the midfield. If Brisbane wants someone for Mal Michael from us, it has to be Kennelly.

              Unless Brisbane decides to rebuild, I doubt they would want just a draft pick in return to Mal Michael.

              BTW, I dont think, Brisbane is that stupid to let Mal Michael goes.
              This will just stay as an academic exercise as far as I am concerned.

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              • NMWBloods
                Taking Refuge!!
                • Jan 2003
                • 15819

                #52
                I suspect Brisbane will want to keep Michael as he shores up their defence, allowing some of the quicker players to run out of it.

                We could easily use someone similar in our team at FB, letting Schauble play CHB, where he still has plenty of run and will be only 27 during next year's season.

                If they do lose him and we were able to grab him, I suspect it would go for an early draft pick plus possibly a defender to help fill the gap. They may consider someone like Seymour or Warfe, or both.
                Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                • Charlie
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                  • Jan 2003
                  • 4101

                  #53
                  Originally posted by NMWBloods
                  You mean other people here don't do that...

                  Other people openly suggest that people's opinions are crap. Other people believe that the "faceless fanatics" should not have opinions, but instead leave the views up to the club, yet feel free enough to comment when they want to.

                  Everyone here is entitled to have a view. Everyone is entitled to disagree with that view. Everyone is entitled to present arguments against that view. Everyone is entitled to poke a bit of fun.

                  As for his post, it wasn't evenly vaguely arrogant. He was simply having a bit of a dig and presenting his views at the same time.
                  Fair enough. I can't be bothered arguing about it any longer - I already said that it depended on the reader.

                  I never said not everyone is entitled to have a view. He may well have been poking a bit of fun - I didn't read it that way. One of the biggest drawbacks of messageboards is that tone is very hard to gauge. But that's life... and I honestly don't care enough to keep arguing about it.
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                  We hate Shannon Grant too
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                  • NMWBloods
                    Taking Refuge!!
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 15819

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Charlie
                    Fair enough. I can't be bothered arguing about it any longer - I already said that it depended on the reader.

                    I never said not everyone is entitled to have a view. He may well have been poking a bit of fun - I didn't read it that way. One of the biggest drawbacks of messageboards is that tone is very hard to gauge. But that's life... and I honestly don't care enough to keep arguing about it.
                    Oh yeah, spoil my fun on a quiet day. I am going to assume you are being flippant and dismissive to me and just carry on this argument anyway...

                    BTW - my "entitled" rant was not directed specifically at you, but more in general at a few people who like to pass opinions but also like to say that other people's opinions should not be made and instead leave the club to make choices.
                    Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                    "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                    • Reggi
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                      • Jan 2003
                      • 2718

                      #55
                      Hmmm no I don't care if people are sarcastic - humourous or whatever. People are certainly free to express there opinions
                      The only statement I made was that it takes absolutely no courage whatsover to do it.

                      Wanna win respect that ain't the way.

                      On Mal Michael

                      The only question I would ask - Key position players are so hard to come by - and Brisbane have plenty of quality they can trade and I can't see a ready replacement.

                      Why are they willing to trade him?
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                      • Bleed Red Blood
                        Senior Player
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 2057

                        #56
                        What happened to trade talk?

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                        • NMWBloods
                          Taking Refuge!!
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 15819

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Reggi
                          On Mal Michael

                          The only question I would ask - Key position players are so hard to come by - and Brisbane have plenty of quality they can trade and I can't see a ready replacement.

                          Why are they willing to trade him?
                          Are they though? I haven't actually seen any reports to say that they definitely are - just media speculation.

                          They say things like "Reports from Brisbane suggest Michael could be the victim of the Lions' salary cap dilemma, after the club spent most of the past week unsuccessfully trying to secure deals for a host of uncontracted stars "

                          I think he is too important to their defence and they will keep him, and the talk of him going will simply be that.
                          Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                          "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                          • Reggi
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                            • Jan 2003
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                            #58
                            Originally posted by NMWBloods
                            Are they though? I haven't actually seen any reports to say that they definitely are - just media speculation.

                            They say things like "Reports from Brisbane suggest Michael could be the victim of the Lions' salary cap dilemma, after the club spent most of the past week unsuccessfully trying to secure deals for a host of uncontracted stars "

                            I think he is too important to their defence and they will keep him, and the talk of him going will simply be that.
                            According to tonight's news it utter crap that he will be traded.

                            It's the speculation that you hate really - as you'd suspect - if he was good and they rated him - they'd never give a 26 yo key defender up
                            You don't ban those who supported your opponent, you make them wallow in their loserdom by covering your victory! You sit them in the front row. You give them a hat! Toby Ziegler

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                            • Craig
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                              • Jan 2003
                              • 225

                              #59
                              It's unlikely that he will be traded. I think the reason Brisbane would let him go would be that they cannot fit him under their salary cap and/or he wants more then what they are prepared to offer.

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                              • Bleed Red Blood
                                Senior Player
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 2057

                                #60
                                Brisbane won't trade Michael they are more likely to let go Bradshaw and possibly Mcrae?But getting rid of there FB is out of the question.

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