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  • sprite
    Regular in the Side
    • Jan 2003
    • 813

    Betheras - open to offers

    Reported that Rupert Betheras is no longer required at Eddiewood, is he an option for the in and under ball getter that we require??
    sprite
  • TheHood
    On the Rookie List
    • Jan 2003
    • 1938

    #2
    Read that article this morning and felt sorry for him, but he would just be taking up good list room.

    We are down in the gutter a bit talking about these discards. I think Mal Michael is the best available for us at the moment.

    I think we have to consider an early pick for him too. Brisbane want young men who won't demand as much income over the next 3 seasons.

    I would rather abort an unborn than put a loved one up for adoption in this instance.
    The Pain of Discipline is Nothing Like The Pain of Disappointment

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    • Rob-bloods
      What a year 2005 SSFC/CFC
      • Aug 2003
      • 931

      #3
      Ironic Betheras is hard at it and didn't make GF side where they showed no ticker! If he was younger, I was surprised to see he is 27, I would've had a stab at him for nothing!
      Sports do not build character. They reveal it....Heywood Broun

      I always turn to the sports pages first, which record people's accomplishments. The front page has nothing but man's failures......Earl Warren

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      • Bleed Red Blood
        Senior Player
        • Sep 2003
        • 2057

        #4
        I dont think Betheres is what we need either.

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        • ugg
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          Site Admin
          • Jan 2003
          • 15970

          #5
          Betheras, Beaumont, Moorcroft, Richardson? What's with all these suggestions of picking up washed up hacks? Stick with playing the kids Roosy.
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          • Rizzo
            On the Rookie List
            • Jan 2003
            • 655

            #6
            Interesting if we could get him for nicks (nothing not Matthew) but looks like he had a shocker this year...do the stats tell the whole story?

            Height 181cm
            Weight: 85kg

            Reserves best & fairest 1998

            1999-2002: Collingwood - 76 games, 29 goals

            Season
            AFL 2003 Premiership Season

            Round Date vs. K H P M HO T FF FA G B
            ROUND 1 28/03/2003 Richmond 2 3 5 2 0 1 1 0 1 0
            ROUND 2 04/04/2003 Carlton 4 1 5 2 1 1 1 0 0 0
            ROUND 6 03/05/2003 Sydney 4 10 14 4 0 2 0 3 1 0
            ROUND 13 28/06/2003 Western Bdogs 9 6 15 8 1 2 1 1 3 0
            ROUND 14 05/07/2003 Kangaroos 3 5 8 3 0 1 0 0 0 0
            ROUND 15 12/07/2003 Fremantle 3 5 8 0 0 4 0 0 0 0
            ROUND 16 18/07/2003 Richmond 7 4 11 4 0 3 0 1 1 0
            ROUND 17 27/07/2003 Carlton 4 11 15 2 0 1 1 1 0 0
            ROUND 18 02/08/2003 Geelong 3 2 5 1 0 1 0 1 0 0

            (sorry about the spacing, check - <http://collingwoodfc.com.au/default....personid=13172>)
            Last edited by Rizzo; 14 October 2003, 05:30 PM.

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            • snajik
              Senior Player
              • Jan 2003
              • 1115

              #7
              Anyone called Rupert is trouble.
              It's very hard to live in a studio apartment in San Jose with a man who's learning to play violin. That's what she told the police when she handed them the empty revolver.
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              • Bleed Red Blood
                Senior Player
                • Sep 2003
                • 2057

                #8
                including Giles?

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                • DST
                  The voice of reason!
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 2705

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ugg
                  Betheras, Beaumont, Moorcroft, Richardson? What's with all these suggestions of picking up washed up hacks? Stick with playing the kids Roosy.
                  Ugg, no one is saying we drop the youth policy but at present we have two roles to fill that require mature players to fill those roles while some of younger guys mature into these roles in the next couple of year.

                  General consesus on this board is that a KP backman or as close to and a in and under midfielder.

                  You may consider some of these players washed up hacks but they all have played football at the highest level and have shown they can play consistent football.

                  If the the price is right why wouldn't someone like Beaumont add to our side right now and give us that extra KP backman we are looking for.

                  DST
                  "Looking forward to a rebuilt, new, fast and exciting Swans model in 2010"

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                  • ugg
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                    Site Admin
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 15970

                    #10
                    Beaumont is NOT a KPP. He does play on taller opponents but we already have C.Bolton in that role.
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                    • DST
                      The voice of reason!
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 2705

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ugg
                      Beaumont is NOT a KPP. He does play on taller opponents but we already have C.Bolton in that role.
                      What if C Bolton goes down in round 1 next year for 12 weeks with a knee injury.

                      What if C Bolton is released to the midfield and becomes that in and under midfielder we are looking for.

                      What if he could go forward and become that forward who works hard to keep the ball in when it hits the ground allowing O'Keefe to venture further up the field and display his natural talents.

                      Having a team that is flexibale allows you to try different things that may be the difference between finishing third and first. Beaumont is a ready made player that can play tall and down back which would give us some of that flexibility.

                      I often think people on this board are to one dimensional, if it works stick with it. Thankfully Roos seems to be a coach who is prepared to think outside the square and try different things to try and improve the side.

                      Every other team next year will be trying different things against us and they have now had a year to work out the Roos games plan and style. We need to keep moving and experimenting to stay ahead of the pack.

                      DST
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                      • ugg
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                        • Jan 2003
                        • 15970

                        #12
                        Bring Powell or Hunt into the side, or chuck Stevens back there if he's still around. I'd rather play a youngster than have some discard from another club blocking his development.
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                        • Bleed Red Blood
                          Senior Player
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 2057

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ugg
                          Bring Powell or Hunt into the side, or chuck Stevens back there if he's still around. I'd rather play a youngster than have some discard from another club blocking his development.
                          Agreed.

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                          • Ruda Wakening
                            Survived The Meltdown
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 1519

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Rizzo
                            ...do the stats tell the whole story?
                            I don't think they tell the whole story, mainly because nearly every Magpie person i know, either supporter, or from within the club, wanted Rupert back in the team. Most of those people would know if a guys on a downward spiral, playing crap, and would be more than happy for them to be dropped to the seconds to ' find their form ' . However that certainly wasn't the case with Rupert .

                            I must admit i do feel really sorry for him. He always gave 110% . Not his fault, he just fell out of favour, which can happen very easily at Collingwood . Many teams could pick up much worse than him in my opinion. Upside is, he wouldn't cost a fortune .
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                            • Ruda Wakening
                              Survived The Meltdown
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 1519

                              #15
                              Originally posted by ugg
                              What's with all these suggestions of picking up washed up hacks?
                              Wasn't Brett Kirk a similar case ? Martin Pike was delisted. Theres been plenty of them who have gone on to prove they weren't too washed up after all .

                              I'm not saying each club should fall over themselves to get " washed up hacks " , but i am saying that sometimes some of the players who are delsited, are actually capable of taking a wealth of knowledge with them to a NEW club, and they usually come at a bargain price.
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