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  • Wardy
    The old Boiler!
    • Sep 2003
    • 6676

    #16
    Well I'm feeling most unloved, still havent received mine, unless of course they send them out in alphabetical order, and being a "W" we are always the last!

    I'm keen to hear about the extra payment to guarantee a GF ticket.

    I was part of the members focus group and we discussed that very subject, however, we also put forward that whilst it was fine to slap on the extra amount for the guarantee of the ticket, it was only fair that those members got something in return if in the event that we didnt make the grandfinal. A scarf just doesnt cut it for mine - I already have 2!

    We put forward the suggestion that a function be held on Grandfinal day for those contributers with say a big screen etc, BBQ that kind of thing, a bit of party type atmosphere, and a momento, similar to the Team of the Century pin. Obviously they didnt like that idea!

    Anyway, they are my random thoughts for what its worth.

    cheers
    Wardy
    (the girl who shares her birthday with lovely Barry Hall!)
    I used to be indecisive, but now I'm not so sure..................
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    AGE IS ONLY IMPORTANT FOR TWO THINGS - WINE & CHEESE!

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    • Rod_
      Senior Player
      • Jan 2003
      • 1179

      #17
      Mine was in yesterday

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      • DST
        The voice of reason!
        • Jan 2003
        • 2705

        #18
        Originally posted by desredandwhite
        The inclusion of the "Premiership Club" package is an interesting one. All in all I think it's a very smart move for the club - They get $300,000 extra for practically no extra effort (apart from the 4000 scarves!). The only "pay-out" time is when the club is into a grand final, in which case they dont' pay any extra anyway.

        Those who choose to pay extra to guarantee a grand final ticket will benefit when we make it, the club gets extra money, the Sydneysider members get a benefit too (they now get guaranteed GF tix too, as a result of the new member category created).

        The only problem is that it makes it harder for the rank and file members to get a GF ticket - after you take out the 4000 Premiership Club members and the Redbacks/Sydneysiders, you won't be left with much more than about 5000ish tickets to divide up amongst the rest.

        * For those who haven't received their information yet, the Premiership Club is a new member category for those with reserved concourse or stand seats, or members reserve seats. For about $75 extra, you get a guaranteed chance to buy a GF ticket, plus a scarf.
        While I agree with you in principle Des on the subject of guaranteed GF tickets, fact is that all clubs now do it. It is just a way of screwing out more dollars from your members.

        At least we have kept it at this stage to only roughly the half the GF tickets provided, at Collingwood you need to fork a minimum of $400.00 before you can gaurantee yourself a ticket and even then you must have paid by the end of November.

        DST
        "Looking forward to a rebuilt, new, fast and exciting Swans model in 2010"

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        • Wardy
          The old Boiler!
          • Sep 2003
          • 6676

          #19
          Perhaps I was premature with my thoughts.

          I await the package with interest.
          I used to be indecisive, but now I'm not so sure..................
          Chickens drink - but they don't pee!
          AGE IS ONLY IMPORTANT FOR TWO THINGS - WINE & CHEESE!

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          • lizz
            Veteran
            Site Admin
            • Jan 2003
            • 16736

            #20
            Originally posted by Wardy
            however, we also put forward that whilst it was fine to slap on the extra amount for the guarantee of the ticket, it was only fair that those members got something in return if in the event that we didnt make the grandfinal. A scarf just doesnt cut it for mine - I already have 2!
            I'm not sure I see why you should get anything else in return if the Swans don't make the GF. What you're buying is an call option, and as with all options it is either worth a lot (if a condition is met or if exercise price is less than market price) or nothing. You don't get a sweetener if it turns out to be worth nothing.

            If anything I reckon $75 is far too cheap. From a purely financial point of view, if the Swans were to make the GF once every eight years (which I suggest should be the expected frequency over the long term in an even competition), each GF visit will cost $600 (ignorning the time value of money). The alternatives would be buying a corporate package, which would cost around a $1000, scalping a ticket (for which you would probably pay a far higher premium), or queuing for some inordinate length of time and/or missing the prelim final to get a "queue ticket" for a low chance of getting one.

            Another analogy - you don't (in most cases) get anything back on your insurance if your house doesn't get burgled.

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            • Wardy
              The old Boiler!
              • Sep 2003
              • 6676

              #21
              Well Lizz Understand where you are coming from, however this was what the members who were invited on the focus group wanted! And we were all from various areas & professions but we all had the same ideal, value for money.

              Dont think thats being unreasonable.
              I used to be indecisive, but now I'm not so sure..................
              Chickens drink - but they don't pee!
              AGE IS ONLY IMPORTANT FOR TWO THINGS - WINE & CHEESE!

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              • Mike_B
                Peyow Peyow
                • Jan 2003
                • 6267

                #22
                Still to receive mine. Will not be taking up the Premiership Club option simply because I will not be able to attend the GF in 2004 whether we're there or not. This year it was Jewish New Year, 2004 its Yom Kippur. Having said that, I've checked up till about 2017 and no High Holydays on GF day till then!

                I'm on the Chandwagon!!!

                If you cannot compete for the premiership, it's better to be young and exciting than middle-aged and dowdy.

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                • jixygirl
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 432

                  #23
                  I haven't received mine yet. Hopefully I'll see my renewal in the mail when I get home. On the matter of the Premiership Club membership, $75 isn't a lot extra for Grand Final preference, especially compared to some other AFL clubs. My family has always bought the GF Preference with our memberships (which is usually not a lot more) and haven't gotten any value out of it. You buy it just in case the Swans make the Grand Final and you can go.
                  Sydney Swans Premiers 2005 - The Mighty Bloods

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                  • Doctor J.
                    Senior Player
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 1310

                    #24
                    Wonder whether or not we (meaning Melbourne members) will have access to a premiership club.

                    IMO $75 is cheap, for a guarantee.

                    for the last 4 or 5 years I have paid an extra $20 for GF Preference. This is no guarantee at all, so to me $75 is cheap.

                    And Lizz, you must be a stockbroker to have come up with such a good analogy.

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                    • DST
                      The voice of reason!
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 2705

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Doctor J.
                      Wonder whether or not we (meaning Melbourne members) will have access to a premiership club.

                      IMO $75 is cheap, for a guarantee.

                      for the last 4 or 5 years I have paid an extra $20 for GF Preference. This is no guarantee at all, so to me $75 is cheap.

                      And Lizz, you must be a stockbroker to have come up with such a good analogy.
                      From my brief conversation with Mr Moorwood, yes Melbounre members will be offered the premiership club. It will be similar to the Sydney offer and be of a limited nature.

                      Could be in the position where Membership is $75.00 and Premiership Club is also $75.00, now that is bizarre.

                      Speaking of bizarre, how can we have a premiership club when we have not won one in 70 years?

                      DST
                      "Looking forward to a rebuilt, new, fast and exciting Swans model in 2010"

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                      • robbieando
                        The King
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 2750

                        #26
                        Originally posted by DST
                        Could be in the position where Membership is $75.00 and Premiership Club is also $75.00, now that is bizarre.
                        I think it will be $75 on top of the $75 membership.

                        Speaking of bizarre, how can we have a premiership club when we have not won one in 70 years?
                        Very good point, I suppose the fact we have 3 premierships already might count for something
                        Once was, now elsewhere

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                        • undy
                          Fatal error: Allowed memo
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 1231

                          #27
                          Originally posted by DST
                          :

                          Speaking of bizarre, how can we have a premiership club when we have not won one in 70 years?

                          DST
                          That's been the problem. Now we have a premiership club, it will fall into our laps.
                          Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way you'll be a mile away and he'll be shoeless.

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                          • sharpie
                            On the Rookie List
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 1588

                            #28
                            if it only cost $75 dollars to be a premiership club, I reckon even the bulldogs could have afforded one or two over the last few years!
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                            • DST
                              The voice of reason!
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 2705

                              #29
                              Originally posted by robbieando
                              I think it will be $75 on top of the $75 membership.
                              Sorry Robbie, I didn't explain myself very well that is what I meant.

                              I find it bizarre we can pay $75.00 to attend our 5 games and then pay $75.00 again so we have the right to receive a grand final ticket.

                              DST

                              "Looking forward to a rebuilt, new, fast and exciting Swans model in 2010"

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                              • GoBloods
                                On the Rookie List
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 244

                                #30
                                premiership club

                                what an innovative way to raise $300,000

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