Shocking Result on the Trading

[sharpie]

Our trading/drafting this year goes from bad to worse. No one can say we have improved our list yet. All we have done is lose a champion and a few middling players. No new star, no new potential star, no new C.Bolton type, nothing. A little improvement in the drafting order, whoopee, especially in what is considered a weak/even draft, where the difference between pick 20 & pick 50 is marginal. We have now twice been screwed over by players looking to improve their contracts - Aker and perhaps Ray Hall. Now there is speculation about Morrison, but why will that prove any different, considering the same teams still have a pick in the PSD before we do. All these conspiracy theories have brought us nothing so far. I'm deeply disappointed.

[Bart]

Re: Shocking Result on the Trading

Originally posted by sharpie
Our trading/drafting this year goes from bad to worse. No one can say we have improved our list yet. All we have done is lose a champion and a few middling players. No new star, no new potential star, no new C.Bolton type, nothing. A little improvement in the drafting order, whoopee, especially in what is considered a weak/even draft, where the difference between pick 20 & pick 50 is marginal. We have now twice been screwed over by players looking to improve their contracts - Aker and perhaps Ray Hall. Now there is speculation about Morrison, but why will that prove any different, considering the same teams still have a pick in the PSD before we do. All these conspiracy theories have brought us nothing so far. I'm deeply disappointed.

No Ryan O'Connors, Andrew Bomfords, Brett Allisons, Stephen Tingays, Scott Russells etc. I too am sooooo disappointed.

The two best players in the trading period this year were unable to do deals with ANY club, and both are going to end up at the Bulldogs and Carlton as a result. Trading shouldn't happen if you can't improve your list AND doesn't happen if the player you want (a) doesn't want to come to your club and (b) we can't do a deal with their club.

I can't see any reason to be disappointed about it.

[Rod_]

Yeh

All these re-tread players going to other clubs that preceed us in the draft and we have to choose from the stock of young players that they left behind. I'm so dissapointed that we have to stick to our youth policy.....

Heck we might even get one that hasn't been injured for most of last season or ......... best of the youth in the draft - bugger

I am actually pleased that the uncontracted players geta chance and C Bolton has been great for us - but Cressa needed to retire to give others room to grow - Eg Kirky and J Bolton.... But don't throw away the chance of getting the best of the youth that is around


Rod_

[footyhead]

I actually think that things are going well, trading is like poker. In a really good game of poker, professional players can win big on the smallest of hands. Somtimes conservation is better.
The only thing I really have been dissapointed about, is the delisting of mcglone from the rookie list,
but I am sure that pappa Roos knows best, and I will just have to take it like the naughty little, wayward and foolish abecedarian that i am.

[DST]

Bit of a harsh call considering we still as yet have not selected our four or five picks from the draft.

Who's not to say we get someone like Saddington who will come straight into the side and play straight away and there are a couple of handy types such as Morrison in the draft and Read in the PSD to look at.

DST

[Ryan Bomford]

It is obvious, but this our penalty for success and an example of how the draft has been constructed to even things out. With no high or mid draft picks, we had no trade bait, and our position in the ND excluded us from guaranteeing spots to disgruntled players. This has been less of a 'problem' in previous years when we've finished mid table and had the options to attract quality players like Ball, Schauble, Williams, Bolton and Davis.

I don't think the Swans will go for four kids in the ND, but I don't have a clue of who the Swans see as useful in the delist pool of 41.

[Rizzo]

Bad to Worse?!?!?!

Last two haven't been so bad...

Nick Davis, C. Bolton

and

Barry Hall, LRT, Scheider

[Destructive]

I would'nt say Craig Bolton has'nt been too bad.

Bloody awful is more like it!

[Charlie]

Originally posted by Destructive
I would'nt say Craig Bolton has'nt been too bad.

Bloody awful is more like it!

That's a joke, isn't it?

[Dpw]

Originally posted by Destructive
I would'nt say Craig Bolton has'nt been too bad.

Bloody awful is more like it!

Your joking right!

[footyhead]

I somtimes think the players secretly post on this board under pseudonyms, just to stir the pot.

[Sanecow]

I hate it when people put the apostrope before the n.

Craig Bolto'n was fa'ntastic this year!

[sharpie]

Originally posted by Rizzo
Bad to Worse?!?!?!

Last two haven't been so bad...

Nick Davis, C. Bolton

and

Barry Hall, LRT, Scheider

I was referring to this year's trading only, not previous years. I reckon we did bloody well last year with Davis & Bolton.

You guys can all make a joke of what I'm saying, I really don't care, its not like I'm gonna cry myself to sleep because some internet forum geeks didnt want to be my friends.

All I was saying is that I am disappointed, because it is very difficult to move forward when you try and do everything the same as in the past. If Roosy thinks that going out with the same game plan next year will deliver the same results, or better, then he is wrong. I'm not saying that he is going to do this, I just hope he isnt.

The only way to move forward is to continually improve - improve skills, improve game plans, improve leadership, and also improve the playing list, etc. My comment about bad to worse is that no-one can say that we have improved our playing list during this trading period, hence it is a shocking result IMO.

[DST]

Originally posted by sharpie
I was referring to this year's trading only, not previous years. I reckon we did bloody well last year with Davis & Bolton.

You guys can all make a joke of what I'm saying, I really don't care, its not like I'm gonna cry myself to sleep because some internet forum geeks didnt want to be my friends.

All I was saying is that I am disappointed, because it is very difficult to move forward when you try and do everything the same as in the past. If Roosy thinks that going out with the same game plan next year will deliver the same results, or better, then he is wrong. I'm not saying that he is going to do this, I just hope he isnt.

The only way to move forward is to continually improve - improve skills, improve game plans, improve leadership, and also improve the playing list, etc. My comment about bad to worse is that no-one can say that we have improved our playing list during this trading period, hence it is a shocking result IMO.

Just how were we going to improve our list this year with out giving up something of quality considering where we finished and picks we have on offer?

Fact is we have a bunch of promising middle ranked players who had fantastic years this year, which because in most cases it is only one year would not have commanded much via trading from other clubs.

The only way this year we were going to get anyone of quality by trading or bumping up our draft pick was to offload a top three player (ie Goodes, Hall or O'loughlin).

This year was not the year to do that, Roos knows what the boys are capable of and knows that if he can sustain that and bring on some of the younger talent we have then he can push the heights we did this year without major structural changes.

I for one would have liked a tall KP backman via trading and a higher draft pick to take a young gun inside midfielder but unfortunately we were not in the game this year.

The price you pay for sucess I guess!!!!!!!!!!1

DST

[NMWBloods]

Problem is that the only way to improve your list through trading is by trading a good player or another team making a mistake a trading for a dud or trading some high draft picks.

We don't exactly have a surfeit of good players and most people would have screamed blue murder if we had traded some high draft picks. Pulling off a trading coup normally involves a bit of luck, unless you are willing to give something good.