Syd v Coll

[NMWBloods]

And we're not allowed to criticise someone because he is wearing red and white...

To observe over a number of years that he does often make bad choices between whether to punch or mark does not make someone a dickhead or hysterical.

It is simply a part of trying to observe football and make objective assessments of the team and players.

I have nothing against Saddington personally and I don't have a vendetta against him.

I have simply passed on my opinions of his defensive game as I see them.

It's a bit sad when some people think this makes you a dickhead...

[robbieando]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
And we're not allowed to criticise someone because he is wearing red and white...

To observe over a number of years that he does often make bad choices between whether to punch or mark does not make someone a dickhead or hysterical.

It is simply a part of trying to observe football and make objective assessments of the team and players.

I have nothing against Saddington personally and I don't have a vendetta against him.

I have simply passed on my opinions of his defensive game as I see them.

It's a bit sad when some people think this makes you a dickhead...

Hear hear

I will say it again, I noticed his mistakes on Saturday more offen than not, however don't get me wrong I'm not calling for him to be left out of the side, far from it. I think he will play and will play down back. What I'm calling for is NOT to use him solely at CHB for the entire season because it will cost us once or twice like it did last season. He has the ability to make a huge impact as a 3rd tall defender or something along those lines. At the moment, I see Saddo lacking any sort of "defenders brains". That might be down to confidence or it just might be the way Saddo is. Whatever it is, something needs to be done to make sure it doesn't cause trouble this season.

Our defence is pretty much settled for round 1 and I have no doubt we'll line up with Saddo at CHB, however as the season goes on we are going to come up against sides with 2 key forwards that will cause us problems. While Schauble is certain to take one of them and most likely keep them quiet, its as it was last season up to how Craig Bolton or Saddo perform on the 2nd key forward. We are very lucky that in Round 1 we look like facing Brisbane without Brown and Leppa, thus neggating the need a CHB to really man up on someone. However as the season goes on we'll have to face the likes of Collingwood, Adelaide, Brisbane and Hawthorn all of whom have 2 strong options forward that we will struggle to match up on.

[Cheer Cheer]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
And we're not allowed to criticise someone because he is wearing red and white...

To observe over a number of years that he does often make bad choices between whether to punch or mark does not make someone a dickhead or hysterical.

It is simply a part of trying to observe football and make objective assessments of the team and players.

I have nothing against Saddington personally and I don't have a vendetta against him.

I have simply passed on my opinions of his defensive game as I see them.

It's a bit sad when some people think this makes you a dickhead...

too true...

[chammond]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
I have simply passed on my opinions of his defensive game as I see them.

It's a bit sad when some people think this makes you a dickhead...

Oh, I wouldn't shed any tears just yet NMWB, but then you obviously didn't really read my post, anyway. I'm surprised you're in such a hurry to put your head in the cap.

When Saddo plays his 300th and you're still criticising him, then I'll re-post it . . . . and BTW it will be me calling you a dickhead, not some people.

[Tooth Fairy]

You two are "fair dinkum unbelievable"

[Ajn]

who cares what the format or how Saddo played, beating Collingwood anytime makes for good sledging.

Let's take the wheels off their wagon, the band has stopped playing

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by chammond
When Saddo plays his 300th and you're still criticising him, then I'll re-post it . . . .

Last week it was 250 games... This week 300 games... I suspect that by the beginning of the season it will be "and you rotters will be laughing out the other side of your face when Saddo beats Tucky's record number of games and is the only player elected to the Hall of Fame while still playing and is voted the greatest CHB ever and receives a record fourth Brownlow..." {say it like a 9 year old all choked up and struggling to get the words out while defending his hero and you'll get the idea}

[chammond]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
Last week it was 250 games... This week 300 games...

Darling . . . . you remembered . . .

Originally posted by NMWBloods
I suspect that by the beginning of the season it will be "and you rotters will be laughing out the other side of your face when Saddo beats Tucky's record number of games and is the only player elected to the Hall of Fame while still playing and is voted the greatest CHB ever and receives a record fourth Brownlow..." {say it like a 9 year old all choked up and struggling to get the words out while defending his hero and you'll get the idea}

Bugger, I was just going to say that.

Originally posted by Tooth Fairy
You two are "fair dinkum unbelievable"

Shove it up your . . . .

[Reggi]

No I'm right - some of you are behaving like hysterical little children after saturday. And some of you are on drugs from your descriptions.

When exactly was Saddington outmarked? Can remember Fraser kicking a goal from the Dwight Falls ends - the only others I recall were C Cloke on Rogers and one where Saddington attempted to mark from the side when they were kicking to the members end.

Collingwood kicked 6-11 noticably because they were trying to kick goals from the pockets - which only Didak managed to achieve.

Saddington played on Fraser at CHF and from my recollection most of the time the footy came to ground early - after that they went wide. I'm not suggesting he was outstanding but he had a solid day - hardly worth pointing out his failures as they were no better or worse than ten or more of his teamates.

Instead we get Saddington hysteria were everyone believes they see him making monumental mistakes. You're deluding yourselves nothing more nothing less than.

Be fair to him - he positioned well at CHB - der coz they never kicked the footy there - he positioned himself well in the final qrtr stopping at least one certain goal.

[Nico]

It may only be coincidental, but I reckon his form has dropped off since he got married.

Is it that he is like a colt in the spring? Has other things on his mind. Look at Lleyton Hewitt. When he said he had got serious about Kim his killer instinct seemed to desert him.

[Captain]

Originally posted by Reggi
No I'm right - some of you are behaving like hysterical little children after saturday. And some of you are on drugs from your descriptions.

When exactly was Saddington outmarked? Can remember Fraser kicking a goal from the Dwight Falls ends - the only others I recall were C Cloke on Rogers and one where Saddington attempted to mark from the side when they were kicking to the members end.

Collingwood kicked 6-11 noticably because they were trying to kick goals from the pockets - which only Didak managed to achieve.

Saddington played on Fraser at CHF and from my recollection most of the time the footy came to ground early - after that they went wide. I'm not suggesting he was outstanding but he had a solid day - hardly worth pointing out his failures as they were no better or worse than ten or more of his teamates.

Instead we get Saddington hysteria were everyone believes they see him making monumental mistakes. You're deluding yourselves nothing more nothing less than.

Be fair to him - he positioned well at CHB - der coz they never kicked the footy there - he positioned himself well in the final qrtr stopping at least one certain goal.

The problem with the Swans and supporters such as yourself is that medicore players/performances seem to be acceptable. It seems the club has similar views to you and it is little wonder we haven't won a flag since 1933 or for that matter even contested more than a couple of GF's.

Compare our so called CHB (Saddington) with that of the benchmark Brisbane (Leppitsch). They are just absolutely worlds apart.

Saddington is OK, nothing special. Yes he is often payed out of position, however that doesn't excuse simple errors such as not punching the ball, poor disposal etc. The excuse that it's a 'practice match' doesn't alter the fact that he can't do the simple things right. I'm afraid that if he is useless in a practice match against a team with many rookies, then how is he going to go in a real match against a full strength team.

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by Reggi
No I'm right

LOL - nothing like being sure of yourself!!

[Tooth Fairy]

Originally posted by chammond

Shove it up your . . . .

aww poor diddums. your nerves are wearing thinner each day

[Reggi]

Originally posted by Captain
The problem with the Swans and supporters such as yourself is that medicore players/performances seem to be acceptable. It seems the club has similar views to you and it is little wonder we haven't won a flag since 1933 or for that matter even contested more than a couple of GF's.

Compare our so called CHB (Saddington) with that of the benchmark Brisbane (Leppitsch). They are just absolutely worlds apart.

Saddington is OK, nothing special. Yes he is often payed out of position, however that doesn't excuse simple errors such as not punching the ball, poor disposal etc. The excuse that it's a 'practice match' doesn't alter the fact that he can't do the simple things right. I'm afraid that if he is useless in a practice match against a team with many rookies, then how is he going to go in a real match against a full strength team.

Mindreader?

What you are saying makes no sense whatsover - As I suggested earlier in this thread, why is it with the 'Saddington cannot play' faction, is so much scrutiny placed on he, when many of his peers do not recieve this scrutiny?

The poor disposal by midfielders - including Goodes far exceeded anything that Saddington did on the weekend.

Now we get even more nonsensical arguements like what you have presented, that he is not as good as Leppitsch. Especially as C Tarrant had a couple of days out against Leppitsch who struggles aerobically.

Not as good as Carey in his heydey, so what?

WTF does that that mean?

I am way way way bored of all these not thought out *opinions* constantly bandied about by this little faction that are pretty illogical and unfounded.

Saddington is being bagged for a game where he kept a quality opponent J Fraser pretty ineffectual and to one goal. I would think that is by any measure it is a fair day at the office yet apparently it was shocking.

I don not mind people questioning the ability of players, but there are a few around here who make these comments and then cannot back them up, some who then just resort to gutless sniping.

[Tooth Fairy]

I actually thought he was ok on saturday too. I'd like to see him tried around half forward line to be honest. I reckon he'd be a pretty testy match up on a flank. Plus it would be good to get the man out of his mind and let him concentrate on just the ball for a change.