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  • TheHood
    On the Rookie List
    • Jan 2003
    • 1938

    Matt Burgan - Get real



    Got us penciled in for 9th. Everyone in Melbourne is sure the Don's are flag favourites outside of the Lions.

    Oh well, just another under-educated (about non-Vic clubs) critic who will be proved wrong for the 2nd season on the trot!
    The Pain of Discipline is Nothing Like The Pain of Disappointment
  • penga
    Senior Player
    • Jan 2003
    • 2601

    #2
    he does have collingwood in 10th however
    C'mon Chels!

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    • EMJ
      Go Swans Always
      • Jan 2003
      • 1076

      #3
      Hope Matt Burgan is wrong he does have an unusual choice for his top 8.
      Love those Swans

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      • BAM_BAM
        Support Staff
        • Jun 2003
        • 1820

        #4
        at least he's on the money for rising star (we hope)
        Here's my heart and you can break it
        I need some release, release, release
        We need
        Love and peace

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        • penga
          Senior Player
          • Jan 2003
          • 2601

          #5
          well thats the stark contradiction that, IMO, puts most of these so-called experts to shame. if mcveigh can win the rising star award, we will be right up there... just doesnt add up!
          C'mon Chels!

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          • Cheer Cheer
            On the Rookie List
            • Jan 2003
            • 934

            #6
            Originally posted by penga
            well thats the stark contradiction that, IMO, puts most of these so-called experts to shame. if mcveigh can win the rising star award, we will be right up there... just doesnt add up!
            Good call penga - was thinking exactly the same thing myself - if we were to go down the ladder this year - the loss of cresswell and an ageing ( yet no signs this preseason of willo or maxie slowing down) midfield would be a strong catalyst.

            Yet if Mcviegh was to go on and win the best young player in the competition he would have had a super year - ala Judd like - against some fairly strong young talent this year - we would go on and have an awesome year if that was the case.

            This guy is a twight - another insightful swans analyst



            No.1 ticket holder of Nick Davis Fan Club...

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            • NMWBloods
              Taking Refuge!!
              • Jan 2003
              • 15819

              #7
              I don't think that if McVeigh won the RS award we would have to have an awesome year. Didn't Goodes win RS in '99 and that wasn't a great year.
              Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

              "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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              • Cher
                Born into the team
                • Feb 2003
                • 1474

                #8
                Who is Matt Burgan??
                CHER - Who has two types of blood cells "RED ones and WHITE ones"

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                • Nico
                  Veterans List
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 11329

                  #9
                  Lenny Hayes for the Brownlow!!!

                  I know a few diehard Saints supporters who go every week, and they say a lot of Saints supporters who like to think they know a bit about the game (don't we all), say that Hayes is overrated and his disposal leaves a lot to be desired.

                  Something I will be taking note of as the season goes on.
                  http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                  • Reggi
                    On the Rookie List
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 2718

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Nico
                    Lenny Hayes for the Brownlow!!!

                    I know a few diehard Saints supporters who go every week, and they say a lot of Saints supporters who like to think they know a bit about the game (don't we all), say that Hayes is overrated and his disposal leaves a lot to be desired.

                    Something I will be taking note of as the season goes on.
                    That's my bandwagon - ATM Hayes is the most over-rated player in the competition. Should Barely - if at all make the top 50 - simply that Gerard Healy has over pumped his tyres.

                    As should have been expected on Sat night - hardly sighted.

                    This is the funny thing about The Aints - everyone likes to ignore the fact that far and away their best player is 32.

                    If Matt Burgan is tipping against us then we are top 4 certainties.
                    You don't ban those who supported your opponent, you make them wallow in their loserdom by covering your victory! You sit them in the front row. You give them a hat! Toby Ziegler

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                    • NMWBloods
                      Taking Refuge!!
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 15819

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Reggi
                      Should Barely - if at all make the top 50.
                      That's a bit over the top for a guy averaging over 20 disposals per game. Picking up 70 contested 'ball gets' hardly makes him a pure receiver either. Managing 87 clearances for the year is not too shabby also - one of the highest in the comp. He also picked up 161 tackles, again one of hte highest in the comp.
                      Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                      "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                      • Reggi
                        On the Rookie List
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 2718

                        #12
                        Top possession getter in the AFL did not make the top 50
                        You don't ban those who supported your opponent, you make them wallow in their loserdom by covering your victory! You sit them in the front row. You give them a hat! Toby Ziegler

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                        • NMWBloods
                          Taking Refuge!!
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 15819

                          #13
                          That Sheahan doesn't rate West hardly supports your claim though.
                          Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                          "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                          • Reggi
                            On the Rookie List
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 2718

                            #14
                            I would during the 90s never have rated Wayne Campbel in the elite players of the league.

                            Similar players - both play very very wide, lick long loopy punts to the pocket that result in nothing.

                            Like Campbell clubs let him run around because he isn't very damaging - as he experienced on the SCG and Sat night - when played tight - useless.

                            This ineffectiveness is why the umpires were right to give him so few Brownlow votes (8) whereas his teamate Harvey could easily have won it.

                            If he made the top 50 it should be in the 40s
                            You don't ban those who supported your opponent, you make them wallow in their loserdom by covering your victory! You sit them in the front row. You give them a hat! Toby Ziegler

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                            • TheHood
                              On the Rookie List
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 1938

                              #15
                              Originally posted by NMWBloods
                              That Sheahan doesn't rate West hardly supports your claim though.
                              Westy is the king of hand passes. Black gets the ball as many times but manages to find space and get the odd kick away too!

                              How Westy got the B & F last year over Johno or Smith is beyond me.
                              The Pain of Discipline is Nothing Like The Pain of Disappointment

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