Team Line Up

[Craig]

Ok I know it's been done heaps, but I thought that now we have had a few practice games under our belts, I will post the best team line up (IMO).

Nicks Hall Doyal
O'Louchlin Stevens Davis
O'Keefe Cresswell Maxfield
Crouch Saddington C Bolton
Barry Schauble Fixter

Ball Williams Goodes

Int: Kirk Kennelly Schneider J Bolton

I couldn't find a spot for Mathews, Seymour, Warfe or Fosdike as I don't think they will add much to the team.

[liz]

Everyone will have their own view of course, but I could definitely find a place for Fossie in that team. I'm expecting (hoping!) that he will become a top class midfielder / wingman for us this year. I'd have him in that team ahead of O'Keefe, J Bolton, Kennelly, Kirk, Fixter or Schneider, even though I think all those players will also be important for us this year as well.

Similarly, though he does do some stupid things at times, I would find a place for Mathews and I think the Swans coaching staff would as well. He finished around 6th or 7th in last years B&F, after a 3rd place finish the previous year.

[Dpw]

Originally posted by lizz
Everyone will have their own view of course, but I could definitely find a place for Fossie in that team. I'm expecting (hoping!) that he will become a top class midfielder / wingman for us this year. I'd have him in that team ahead of O'Keefe, J Bolton, Kennelly, Kirk, Fixter or Schneider, even though I think all those players will also be important for us this year as well.

Similarly, though he does do some stupid things at times, I would find a place for Mathews and I think the Swans coaching staff would as well. He finished around 6th or 7th in last years B&F, after a 3rd place finish the previous year.

I think mathews needs to improve his skills dramatically, he leads our clangers column every week.

I put others ahead of him. (definite trade bait, if anyone would be interested)

[Craig]

You are 100% correct about Mathews. Every time that he goes near the ball he stuffs up. In my book he is not the type of player to have in our team. He's been at the club quite a while now and has never looked like doing anything.

Plenty of players are prone to making mistakes but at least they show a bit of flair and make the mistake trying to do something. Mathews makes his mistakes mucking around with the footy.

[NMWBloods]

I would put Fosdike in ahead of J Bolton.

I'm not a big fan of Matthews, so I would be happy leaving him out.

Probably stating the obvious, but our back line looks pretty small and there is not a lot of backup there if you leave out Seymour and Warfe.

Half our team seems to consist of mid-sized, mid-height, mid-speed, semi midfielders or flankers.

[thommoone]

Agree with everything NMW Bloods said!

[penga]

Re: Team Line Up

Originally posted by Craig
Ok I know it's been done heaps, but I thought that now we have had a few practice games under our belts, I will post the best team line up (IMO).

Nicks Hall Doyal
O'Louchlin Stevens Davis
O'Keefe Cresswell Maxfield
Crouch Saddington C Bolton
Barry Schauble Fixter

Ball Williams Goodes

Int: Kirk Kennelly Schneider J Bolton

I couldn't find a spot for Mathews, Seymour, Warfe or Fosdike as I don't think they will add much to the team.

fosdike averaged 20.6 possesions in the last 10 rounds of last season, i think that is something he can add to the team!

[TheHood]

What really pleases me about our list this year is that we are not harbouring any major liabilities as we have in previous years.

No Luffys
No O'Connors
No Bomfords
No Motts
No Swatta (his last 2 years had been average)

Don't get me wrong, Luffy was a great clubman and could take a mark of so but then when he turned to kick always managed to line up an opposition player.

So the good news is that I feel we're getting the depth set up for coming years and don't have to entertain substandard players.

TOUCH WOOD, by round one, we will have 3 top class specialist ruckmen that are all noted goal kickers. Is there another side in the comp that can boast that? Only Collingwood come close with Fraser & Rocca (McKee is not a forward) and Hawks with Thompson and Everitt.

[Craig]

I know Fosdike finally got a bit of the ball late last season, but to my mind his build is too small, his kicking can be erractic and he is a poor overhead mark. He had the chance to win that Geelong game last year and missed the goal.

I think the Swans are too complaicent with these types of players. We need players to turn into stars. No one can seriously suggest that Fosdike is ever going to be in the same league as Buckley, Crawford, Kelly etc etc. I do however think that Bolton could become this. Yes we all know his faults but he has all the attributes of a champion, the build, the hunger for the footy....

[Mike_B]

IMHO a player like Fosdike will never be noted for his build or overhead marking, simply by nature of the fact he is a wingman. Erratic disposal is something you can be critical of no matter where a player plays however.

In terms of hunger for the football, that too can be an issue, but Fossie will rarely be used as an in and under type of player who really needs to go hard at the ball as you mentioned Bolton does.

[TheHood]

He had the chance to win that Geelong game last year and missed the goal.

I think you mean to say that Fossy had the chance to retrieve what we blew which was the lead in the dying seconds. We mucked that game right up in the last quarter and Fossy wasn't the only culprit.

We're not looking for another Buckley or Crawford. Fossy could turn out to be a great player within his own limitations. James Hird doesn't have the longest kick, isnt the fastest runner and nor does he have the biggest body, but he is fit, plays tall and takes a superb mark, always dangerous.

Fossy played really well under Roosy last year and I only expect him to continue that form this year, why shouldn't we?

[chammond]

No one can seriously suggest that Fosdike is ever going to be in the same league as Buckley, Crawford, Kelly etc etc. I do however think that Bolton could become this. Yes we all know his faults but he has all the attributes of a champion, the build, the hunger for the footy....

I don't usually have any interest in this kind of fantasy footy thread, but this one is just getting silly.

Are you really seriously suggesting that the Swans shouldn't have any players in their squad who aren't potentially as good as Buckley, Crawford or Kelly? We've only got one player as good as Kelly, and he's a runner.

And do you honestly think that all it takes to be a champion is a strong body and hunger for the footy? In that case, there are paddocks full of champions running around South Gippsland every winter.

I'm no particular fan of either Bolton or Fosdike (I think they are both just average, but they are definitely in the Swans' best 22), but suggesting they should be in or out on such an arbitrary basis is laughable.

[penga]

willo also had the opportunity of winning the game against geelong and muffed it, should we count him out now as well???

[penga]

Originally posted by TheHood
What really pleases me about our list this year is that we are not harbouring any major liabilities as we have in previous years.

No Luffys
No O'Connors
No Bomfords
No Motts
No Swatta (his last 2 years had been average)

Don't get me wrong, Luffy was a great clubman and could take a mark of so but then when he turned to kick always managed to line up an opposition player.

you forgot lewis, carey, j stevens, feast... i was a fan of lewy's but he had the erratic boot... i was thinking the same thing the other day, sure we have some liability players now but no where near the standard as the players previously mentioned

[NMWBloods]

I always thought J Stevens was quite good, although a bit erratic at times. I remember he gave our midfield a bit of pace and run, and shut down some dangerous opposition (I recall him completely outpointing Matera one day until he was injured).