Powell In For Saddington

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by Dpw
it is a little sad to see the above posters make every exscuse possible for James but offer none for Saddington.

Not making excuses - just trying to present the facts as I saw them.

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by penga
if i were to pick a FF for the swans it wouldnt be a lynch, our gameplan dictates that we kick to a target and not a contest... where brisbane's gameplan is mainly to a contest and not a target...

I think a FF of that style would be good for us - give us another option. We play with the plan of kicking to a target, requiring players to be on the move, find space and delivery to be good. Great when it happens, but often it doesn't and on those occasions we struggle to score. An option whereby we could kick long to the square and see our FF take a contested grab would be a useful addition.

[Barry Schneider]

It would be awful to an Alistair Lynch type player at the Swans.He leads when there is space in front of him and he stays in the goal square and outmuscles his opponent when there isn't.
We can't have that can we.

[dread and might]

Originally posted by hammo
What game were you watching and have you seen any Swans games in the past 12 months???

Craig Bolton is our best defender.

alright chill. i LIKE bolton. all i was saying with regards to Powell being included,was that IN MY OPINION it isn't saddo that needs to make way. i was picking who would miss a game IF powell were to come in. O-P-I-N-I-O-N......

i defer to your superior knowledge.

[Go Swannies]

Originally posted by chammond
Had to chuckle when I read that. When Neitz beats Saddington it's because Saddo is no good . . . when Neitz beats James he did alright with an impossible task.




Nearly choked when I read that. I can understand that you may be a full paid up Saddo-Nazi but why would you resort to making up stories like that?

I only caught up with RWO a few minutes ago and had to stop work to watch the tape again - I thought we may be in parallel universes. First, check back I've been one of the ones supporting Saddo over the past 18 months and offering congratulations after the Roos game.

But, unless you watched a different game to mine. With 36 seconds on the clock in the 3rd quarter and the Swans leading 84/73, Saddo (lying on the ground) forces a behind - good play. So he gets the kick in. He really rushes the kick (to Ben I think) and puts the ball out of bounds on the full. It was just stupid play (and I'd say that no matter who did it). What were the chances we'd get it to the other end to score in less than 30 seconds - vs their chance to score while within our 50? McDonald kicked in but rather than go for goal he kicked short to Nathan Brown (the other one).

But I couldn't bear to watch the kick so my apologies to Saddo - Nathan Brown kicked a behind from 15 metres out. It wasn't a goal but it should have been. And no thanks to Saddo that it wasn't.

If you think I'm Saddo bashing, then I guess you have to put Heath James in that group too - watch the tape and watch the look James gives Saddo as he gives the turnover. Talk about dirty - and justifiably so.

It's funny, we have a lot of unjustified criticism on this board (and recently some of that is misdirected at Saddo - as well as Willo and both Boltons) but we go strangely silent when one of our players really stuffs up. For example, I've seen no reference to Goodes fluffing a kick that should have gone to a Swan running lose within the 50 and would have given us a much needed goal. Instead the Dees scored on the immediate rebound. Or didn't anyone see that either?

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by Go Swannies
It's funny, we have a lot of unjustified criticism on this board (and recently some of that is misdirected at Saddo - as well as Willo and both Boltons) but we go strangely silent when one of our players really stuffs up. For example, I've seen no reference to Goodes fluffing a kick that should have gone to a Swan running lose within the 50 and would have given us a much needed goal. Instead the Dees scored on the immediate rebound. Or didn't anyone see that either?

I'm quite happy to give praise where due and criticism when warranted.

For example on Goodes' game on the weekend:

Some other portents of later problems were poor disposal, particularly some kicking by Bevan, and poor decision-making, such as Goodes? pass to Schneider when Goodes was 20m out from goal by himself.

Goodes had improved his work rate, however his good efforts were undone by some very poor efforts, including giving the ball up in the centre when tackled, missing an open goal from 15m out, and missing another on the run from 45m. Poor field kicking was another feature of the Swans play during this period, with culprits including Goodes, Fosdike and Kennelly.

http://redandwhiteonline.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4476

[monopoly19]

Originally posted by Go Swannies


It's funny, we have a lot of unjustified criticism on this board (and recently some of that is misdirected at Saddo - as well as Willo and both Boltons) but we go strangely silent when one of our players really stuffs up. For example, I've seen no reference to Goodes fluffing a kick that should have gone to a Swan running lose within the 50 and would have given us a much needed goal. Instead the Dees scored on the immediate rebound. Or didn't anyone see that either?

I was more annoyed at Goodes than anyone after Saturday night. I don't care if he doesn't replicate Brownlow form every single week, but it would be nice if he could get the simple things right all the time, rather than being spectacular one week and then make numerous rudimentary and costless errors the next. The kick you mentioned was a shocker, as was at least one of the behinds he kicked. Most frustrating man in our team.

And just for the record, I was seething when Saddington kicked it OOBOTF. It wasn't simply a skill error, it was a bad decision made by a relatively senior member of the squad that very nearly cost us a goal.

[chammond]

Originally posted by Go Swannies

It's funny, we have a lot of unjustified criticism on this board (and recently some of that is misdirected at Saddo - as well as Willo and both Boltons) but we go strangely silent when one of our players really stuffs up. For example, I've seen no reference to Goodes fluffing a kick that should have gone to a Swan running lose within the 50 and would have given us a much needed goal. Instead the Dees scored on the immediate rebound. Or didn't anyone see that either?

I agree.

The real problem in the last few minutes of the third quarter wasn't Saddo playing on unnecessarily and conceding a point, it was atrocious goal-kicking by Hall and Goodes which resulted in a 4 goal turn around.

We should have gone into the final quarter five or six goals up and the game in the bag. Instead it was less than two goals, and the demons kicking to the scoring end.

[Go Swannies]

Originally posted by chammond
I agree.

The real problem in the last few minutes of the third quarter wasn't Saddo playing on unnecessarily and conceding a point, it was atrocious goal-kicking by Hall and Goodes which resulted in a 4 goal turn around.

We should have gone into the final quarter five or six goals up and the game in the bag. Instead it was less than two goals, and the demons kicking to the scoring end.

Of course, it's our ability to rush and/or fluff getable goals that Sheedy is aiming at with his "tricky MCG wind" comments.

The problem is that our rate of goals/behinds is acceptable by AFL standards- but that's down from phenomenally good last year. Can't we compromise on just very very good?

[jixygirl]

Originally posted by Go Swannies
Of course, it's our ability to rush and/or fluff getable goals that Sheedy is aiming at with his "tricky MCG wind" comments.

The problem is that our rate of goals/behinds is acceptable by AFL standards- but that's down from phenomenally good last year. Can't we compromise on just very very good?

The wind direction and everything would have changed yet again with the development of where the Ponsford Stand was almost completed, but the fluffed/rushed attempts at goal that occurred on Saturday were not affected by the wind.

It's no suprise that our goal/behind ratio is not as good as it was last year, I didn't expect it, but we should be better than what we're playing like at the moment. I cringed at some of the mistakes that Goodes made over the weekend. Not like him at all.

[hammo]

Originally posted by stellation
There is this guy called Andrew Schauble...

Shauble is all class but Bolton is even better. The bloke never gets beaten.