Melbourne-based fans deserved better

[treespirit]

There were some dodgy frees, but make no mistake, the better team (on the day) won. They played smarter, more accountable footy for 3 quarters compared to our 1. I was convinced the Swans were playing on a doughnut because they did not go near the centre square for 3 quarters.

To put in nearly 3 quarters of crap in their first game in front of we Melbourne-based supporters was very disappointing and will win them little support. There was a lot of red and white at the 'G today that went away pretty disgruntled with the team. Not nearly good enough. I hope Tony Morwood reads this.

Still, we nearly beat them with one decent quarter. We have the talent, now show me the money!!

[Bart]

Re: Melbourne-based fans deserved better

Originally posted by treespirit
To put in nearly 3 quarters of crap in their first game in front of we Melbourne-based supporters was very disappointing and will win them little support. There was a lot of red and white at the 'G today that went away pretty disgruntled with the team. Not nearly good enough. I hope Tony Morwood reads this.

And we Sydney-based ones deserved it ? Also didn't realise Tony was one of the selectors.

Memo Myles Baron-Hayes Re: wishes for nest year for fixture in order of Priority

1. 7 matches in Melbourne
2. At the MCG (don't like KP, TD, OO)
3. Team plays well in front of Melbourne based fans

[stellation]

Re: Melbourne-based fans deserved better

Originally posted by treespirit
To put in nearly 3 quarters of crap in their first game in front of we Melbourne-based supporters was very disappointing and will win them little support. There was a lot of red and white at the 'G today that went away pretty disgruntled with the team. Not nearly good enough. I hope Tony Morwood reads this.

Yep, all poor performances should be reserved for Sydney fans who
1/. get too many Swans games
2/. don't really understand the game anyway

[BAM_BAM]

I'll take this thread was created while under the sufference of the loss in genearl, but agree with the posts following. I think WE ALL deserve OUR team to play well. Bad choice of words there.

[treespirit]

Do you three choose to take EVERY comment from Melbourne as anti-Sydney?

I stick by my words. For the first game in Melbourne they should have put in a special effort. Of course Sydney based fans deserve better than that, and, thankfully for you, you will usually get it within a week or 2 after a poor performance.

They played dumb, unaccountable footy for the first game in Melbourne for more than 6 MONTHS, not 1 week. Yes, we all deserved better, but this should have been treated as more important than a 'normal' game. Who would be inspired to buy a membership after that? Let alone the effect on our ladder position, which should have been enough motivation.

Is Tony Morwood a selector? Of course not. Why would you make such an insulting comment? He is the club's man in Melbourne so I see him as representing the Melbourne members to the club, so I expect him to take our feelings to the players and the club.

Hopefully some of you Sydney-siders can stop being so sensitive.

[liz]

Originally posted by treespirit

I stick by my words. For the first game in Melbourne they should have put in a special effort. Of course Sydney based fans deserve better than that, and, thankfully for you, you will usually get it within a week or 2 after a poor performance.

They played dumb, unaccountable footy for the first game in Melbourne for more than 6 MONTHS, not 1 week. Yes, we all deserved better, but this should have been treated as more important than a 'normal' game. Who would be inspired to buy a membership after that? Let alone the effect on our ladder position, which should have been enough motivation.

So as a Swans supporter who, I presume, would prefer them to win as many games as possible and play the best footy they are capable of, would you be satisfied if they played an ordinary game in Sydney and then said as an excuse "We didn't think we needed to try very hard today because it was only a home game and our Sydney fans will get another chance to see us play next week"?

To suggest that they should have put in an "extra special effort" just because of where the game was played is surely an insult to them, to all supporters and just doesn't make sense.

FWIW I thought that the work effort was fine yesterday - it was the skills and decision making that were questionable.

[Cher]

Does it really matter at all where we live or what state the game is played in.
We all deserve to see a good game regardless of if we drive 10 mins to to get to the game or drive and fly for several hours at the cost of several hundred dollars!
And by a good game I mean played well and umpired well!

[treespirit]

Does anyone seriously believe that the team plays at 100% every week or that they don't "get themselves up" for special games? Or that some weeks they are not just going through the motions? Or that every game is viewed equally by the players?

It's a ridiculous contention to say that any person, let alone team, always has 100% focus on what they are doing. Do I wish they did. Of course . Every minute of every game (Do I wish I did? Of course. Do I? No). Do I think someone can make an extra effort if its really important? YES!

There was not 100% focus from many players yesterday, particularly a few senior ones. Some appeared to be in fairy land.

As we agree, their decision making was poor. If anyone is really determined to achieve something, then if its not working, you make the effort to change. That did not happen for 3 quarters. In the last quarter, some players made the extra effort to change. That makes it so much more frustrating. Applied for the whole game, it would have been an easy win.

It's not an insult to the players, it is human nature. Do I think this game should have been seen as more important than some others? Yes, just as I do for the Telstra Stadium games. I was angry last week too, but I wasn't there and did not even get to see it as I don't have pay TV. If the club wants to grow, it needs to win these higher profile games. Do I expect all Melbourne games to be seen the same way? No. But first game of the season in Melbourne, at the 'G, yes, that is worth an extra effort.

[dendol]

I know we have issues with our inconsistent, patchy footy, but this was evident in last weeks game against Melbourne, and also vs Geelong@SCG. Our players didnt deliberately go to the MCG to play crap football.

Fair enough, some extra effort from our midfield may have changed things, but it sounds like you are taking this poor effort from our boys as a personal affront against Melbourne supporters. If your logic is anything to go by, then our Western suburbs supporters should feel insulted and outraged last week in what was the first game at Telstra Stadium this year.

Conditions were not really conducive to our brand of footy, so maybe you should turn up a day of sunshine and no wind when the Swans next play there.

[The Boot]

Originally posted by lizz
FWIW I thought that the work effort was fine yesterday - it was the skills and decision making that were questionable.

I agree that the effort didn't quite get the result we wanted. I've also seen too many games where the luck of the bounce, for example, has gone our way all day .. and that is a guilty pleasure for sure. Umpiring, in a close game like this, can bring the emotions to boiling point. I think the body language showd that we were under the pump. They never had the wood over us totally though. Bombers played a consistent straightforward game, and we dickd around a bit at times. I'm angered by the close loss, but forgiving of our almost win, under v.controversial circumstances.

AS for the Melb v Syd debate. Let's just drop that one, OK. We're all supporting the same team wherever we live. And no-one is more aware, or is hurting more about yesterday, than the boys themselves .. and you can take that to the bank!

[Bart]

Originally posted by treespirit
But first game of the season in Melbourne, at the 'G, yes, that is worth an extra effort.

You honestly believe this don't you.

[treespirit]

Originally posted by Bart
You honestly believe this don't you.

Yes I do.

[treespirit]

Originally posted by Bart
You honestly believe this don't you.

I don't think you, or the club, realise how annoying it is to be 1/4 of the way through the season before we get a chance to see our team.

[liz]

Originally posted by treespirit
I don't think you, or the club, realise how annoying it is to be 1/4 of the way through the season before we get a chance to see our team.

How could we not realise. We've been told often enough.

But to suggest that the team should try harder just because it's their first game in Melbourne for the year doesn't make sense.

I expect the team to do the best they possibly can everytime they run out in the Red and White. Sometimes it will be good enough, sometimes not but the idea of switching motivation on and off is anathma to me.

[anne]

The debate shouldn't be about when and when not to play their best - I think they try and we are all missing the point that they are just not a very good team. We may as well be realistic. Also I think Roos is making some glaring errors in tactics and where to play certain players ie Saddington, Goodes, Rogers etc.