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  • Go Swannies
    Veterans List
    • Sep 2003
    • 5697

    I'm innocent: Hall

    I'm innocent: Hall
    By Nikki Tugwell
    June 02, 2004

    BARRY HALL will plead not guilty to striking Chris Grant when he fronts the AFL Tribunal tonight, with the case resting heavily on the testimony of the Bulldogs' captain.








    Should Hall be found guilty, the Swans, already with just 26 fit players on their list, will be left with a massive hole in their forward structure for Sunday's match against undefeated St Kilda at the SCG.

    The Swans requested the tribunal hearing be postponed for 24 hours until tonight to build an adequate defence for the star centre half-forward.

    The AFL has warned clubs about giving honest evidence in an attempt to stamp out the long-standing culture of players protecting fellow players at the tribunal. Tonight's hearing will test the AFL's crackdown, whereby witnesses now risk suspension for giving unsatisfactory evidence.

    Television cameras did not capture the behind-the-play incident and tonight chairman Brian Collis QC will want to know why Grant fell to the turf holding his head in the fourth quarter on Saturday night.

    Hall will attend tonight's hearing in Melbourne.

    "We'll present the case the best we can and Barry will be pleading not guilty," Swans football operations manager Andrew Ireland said.

    The former Saint has not been suspended since a round-15 incident in 2002 when he received a five-match penalty.

    AFL investigations officer Rick Lewis interviewed Grant and Hall on Monday after a field umpire lodged an incident referral form over the behind-play clash.

    The AFL also summonsed at least one witness, believed to be from the Western Bulldogs, who has also been interviewed about the incident.

    The AFL does not intend calling any other witnesses tonight except Grant and Hall, although evidence from the "secret" witness is likely to be tabled.

    The Swans had not determined last night whether they would call additional witnesses.

    With eight minutes remaining in the Swans-Bulldogs game, cameras zoomed in on Hall standing 1 1/2 metres in front of Grant. When the camera returned seven seconds later, Grant was on the ground on all fours. The field umpire in the background in clear view has his sights fixed upfield throughout the alleged incident. No report was laid by the umpire at the time.

    St Kilda's Nick Dal Santo is available to take on Sydney on Sunday after he and Carlton's Simon Wiggins were fined by the tribunal last night for colliding with an umpire.

  • Ruda Wakening
    Survived The Meltdown
    • Aug 2003
    • 1519

    #2
    Re: I'm innocent: Hall

    Originally posted by Go Swannies
    The AFL also summonsed at least one witness, believed to be from the Western Bulldogs, who has also been interviewed about the incident.

    The AFL does not intend calling any other witnesses tonight except Grant and Hall, although evidence from the "secret" witness is likely to be tabled.
    Now they've summonsed a witness off their own bat, i think we're buggered.

    If that player is Rowan Smith ...

    Considering he threw a fit at Baz after the incident it would be pretty surprising for him to then say there was nothing in it.
    Sit down or i swear to God i'll have you shot.

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    • Alec
      On the Rookie List
      • May 2004
      • 51

      #3
      secret witnesses? this is getting sillier every time I log on. I just wish they'd get it over with so I can get on with focusing on what really counts...the bleepin game this Sun.

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      • EMJ
        Go Swans Always
        • Jan 2003
        • 1076

        #4
        If they are bringing a witness why not us. Says in the paper tele - only the one witness, theirs allowed.
        If Smith is brought into it - bring in the b umpire who was whispering in Smiths ear when Buchanan was given a free.
        Hall better get off - or I smell crooked tribunal all through.
        Love those Swans

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        • NMWBloods
          Taking Refuge!!
          • Jan 2003
          • 15819

          #5
          Why don't we bring Buchanan in who can say anything we choose for him to say.
          Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

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          • Dave
            Let those truckers roll
            • Jan 2003
            • 1557

            #6
            The morons at the AFL should realise that if Bazza doesn't play it will be to the detriment of the match.
            "My theory is that the universe is made out of stupidity because it's more plentiful than hydrogen" - Frank Zappa

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            • dread and might
              Back, strapped and intact
              • Apr 2004
              • 949

              #7
              Originally posted by janpa

              If Smith is brought into it - bring in the b umpire who was whispering in Smiths ear when Buchanan was given a free.
              i KNOW! what was that about, i was watching the tape yesterday and they were having a little chuckle. it's enough to turn me into a conspiracist!
              I wish my weed was EMO so it would cut itself

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              • lizz
                Veteran
                Site Admin
                • Jan 2003
                • 16778

                #8
                Re: Re: I'm innocent: Hall

                Originally posted by Ruda Wakening
                Now they've summonsed a witness off their own bat, i think we're buggered.

                If that player is Rowan Smith ...

                Considering he threw a fit at Baz after the incident it would be pretty surprising for him to then say there was nothing in it.
                I actually thought that Smith's reaction was quite lame, certainly compared to what I'd expect if he'd seen Hall forcefully deck Grant. That leads me to conclude that either Smith saw very little (other than Grant rolling around on the ground clutching various parts of his body) or that there really wasn't much in it - just a bit of push and shove.

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                • BAM_BAM
                  Support Staff
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 1820

                  #9
                  Re: Re: I'm innocent: Hall

                  Originally posted by Ruda Wakening
                  Now they've summonsed a witness off their own bat, i think we're buggered.

                  If that player is Rowan Smith ...

                  Considering he threw a fit at Baz after the incident it would be pretty surprising for him to then say there was nothing in it.
                  When reading this I thought It could only be him. He was the only one to react. It was only after he started remonstrating that everyone noticed something was going on.
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                  • Schneidergirl
                    On the Rookie List
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 468

                    #10
                    Originally posted by janpa
                    bring in the b umpire who was whispering in Smiths ear when Buchanan was given a free.
                    That was b Goldspink....

                    I'm not saying anything more on this subject until I hear that Hall has been cleared.

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                    • Ruda Wakening
                      Survived The Meltdown
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 1519

                      #11
                      Re: Re: Re: I'm innocent: Hall

                      Originally posted by lizz
                      I actually thought that Smith's reaction was quite lame, certainly compared to what I'd expect if he'd seen Hall forcefully deck Grant. That leads me to conclude that either Smith saw very little (other than Grant rolling around on the ground clutching various parts of his body) or that there really wasn't much in it - just a bit of push and shove.


                      My point was, it would be more likely that the AFL would table a secret witnesses statement if it were against Baz rather than for him, considering theres a 99% chance that the secret witness is the person who approached Baz in whatever manner, directly after the incident.

                      I just can't see why they'd (the tribunal) bother with the '"secret witness" bullcrap, if they were going to use it because it backed Barry's story up.

                      If that were the case, you'd hardly think they'd have charged him after speaking to all parties via phone.


                      I'm hoping for the best, but expecting the worst.
                      Sit down or i swear to God i'll have you shot.

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                      • dawson
                        Senior Player
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 1007

                        #12
                        Anyone know what time its being heard?

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                        • Ruda Wakening
                          Survived The Meltdown
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 1519

                          #13
                          Early. 5pm i think.
                          Sit down or i swear to God i'll have you shot.

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                          • dread and might
                            Back, strapped and intact
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 949

                            #14
                            i wonder if they will take into account the absolute swan dive that grant took in the first term. that was in the Juergen Klinsmann league of diving.
                            I wish my weed was EMO so it would cut itself

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                            • Grant
                              On the Rookie List
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 579

                              #15
                              The other thing that doesnt look good for Bazz is if watch the tape just after it all settles down and Grant comes back to man up on Hall he says something while having a drink and Hall turns and says 'Do you want me to drop you again?' Its clear as day,you can read his lips.

                              Just hope the tribunal haven't seen this.
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