Goodes at CHB

[Go Swannies]

Originally posted by lizz
Agree with pretty much all your post but not that paragraph.

Buckley has been hampered by his hamstrings this year but has been playing very well when on the paddock. He was superb against us, and certainly gave Bolton the runaround.

I haven't seen much of Adelaide this year but the reports are that Riccuito is playing just as well as he did this year and is one of the current favourites for this year's BM.

I was just pointing out that the Swans were 7th on the ladder while the Crows are 12th and the Pies 13th. Buckley and Goodes have both been hampered by injury and aren't playing at the level they were last year. Buckley is current at odds of 251 (the same as Jude, incidentally) and Goodes at 201. Roo is currently listed at 8. But from the games I've seen none of the three are breaking games open they way they were last year - and their teams' win/loss ratio reflects that.

[barry]

I watched part of the Carlton game again last night, and I think Goodes is playing CHB very well.

He outmarked/outpositioned his opponent more often than vice versa, and you need to remember that when the ball enters his vicinity, it is coming in to a position that advantages the opposing CHF.

Occationally he got outmarked when he should have been able to punch, but thats more about timing his punch than anything else, which could be quickly learnt.

CHB is my favourite position for Goodes. It just makes our side look fantastically balanced.

[NMWBloods]

I disagree at this stage - I think Goodes looks lost when competing one-on-one against opposing CHFs. He has shown this against Hawthorn and Carlton, and he also leaves his man open at the wrong times, as he showed against Collingwood. At critical times in games Roos has moved him away from CHB. I would prefer him to play a ruck rover role.

[chammond]

Ugg posted the link to this Advertiser article, but I found this extract really interesting (and encouraging) in light of this thread -

"Remarkably, Crouch has played since 2000 with a "popped" posterior-cruciate ligament ? the same injury that has hampered 2003 Brownlow Medallist Adam Goodes this year.

"I did the knee the same as Goodesy ? it doesn't repair but I managed to play through that," said Crouch, renowned for hard-running link-play with half-backs Goodes, Irishman Tadhg Kennelly and "leaping" Leo Barry.

"I had a scope to check it out but the ligament just doesn't repair, you can't re-attach it.

"All the other muscles have strengthened to compensate for it. I actually did it against Adelaide at AAMI Stadium in a tackle and played the next week against West Coast."

Despite dealing with a "loose" feeling behind the knee, optimist Crouch predicts a long career for Goodes who ruptured his posterior cruciate in a ruck clash West Coast's Dean Cox in round eight.

"Adam will have some pain for the rest of the season but after this year his knee will be fine," he said. "You learn that a few aches and pains are not that serious. You can just get on with it."

[liz]

That certainly is encouraging. Amazing that we were unaware of Crouch's mishap. He truly is an tough, no-nonsense player.

Also brings home how often players carry these injuries about which we have little idea.

[dread and might]

didn't leo play most of last season with painkillers for the ankle as a given?

i worry about how their bodies will be when they're 40 ish, especially considering how increasing professionalism makes it expected for a player to take the field if they feel they can put in 100%

i know they're paid well and all but....sheesh

[Mark]

Originally posted by dread and might
didn't leo play most of last season with painkillers for the ankle as a given?

i worry about how their bodies will be when they're 40 ish, especially considering how increasing professionalism makes it expected for a player to take the field if they feel they can put in 100%

i know they're paid well and all but....sheesh

Yes, i think we sometimes confuse 'toughness' with long term disability. It is a difficult one !