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  • Go Swannies
    Veterans List
    • Sep 2003
    • 5697

    Roos' masterplan

    I've just got home from the game and think that a lot of people here are being unnecessarily harsh on Paul Roos and the team. We've just won six of our past seven games. The last three weeks have become progessively more boring. The Pies was kinda inspirational, Carlton was workman-like and tonight was very dull to watch. At least I reckon it was to anyone other than a coach of a team that is set to play us between now and the end of September.

    Last year the Swans played free flowing exciting footy. When teams manned up on us we fell apart (thanks Pies). This year Cressa may have been the coach that first decided that manning up on us would bring us undone. The only reason that the Cats didn't beat us was that they weren't firing right, either so we slogged it out. But everyone else paid attention.

    Next week the Cats face us again and what are they going to do? They are a young team that play really fast flowing footy. They can give that a shot but they know that the Swans play that game well, too. Or they can man up and stop the game. But the Swans have eked out wins against tougher (though not necessarily better) teams in the past few weeks. Apparently, according to Roos the last quarter tonight set a record for the number of ball ups.

    So what do the other coaches do? The best team in the comp (Lions) tried flooding on us and we chip kicked and nearly won. The Roos went for free flowing and we flattened them. The Pies, Carlton and Crows went for man on man and all lost.

    We've won six out of the past seven - what team is travelling better? Tonight was an ugly win but it certainly served notice. In the long aftermatch interview Roos said that his ideal game plan would have the final score at Crows 6 and Swans 9. He reckons that a few wayward kicks (Nicks he mentioned) stopped the team from perfectly matching his intentions.

    We won and no Swans were injured. A good night at the office, I reckon. A few weeks ago Magic told me that the Swans intended to win 8 of their last 10 games. Right now we look on track for that. We'll probably have a better idea after the Cats and Lions games if Roos is the tactical genius I think he may be.

    After the Lions game I said it was such a great game I almost didn't care who won. Another fan said that he just wanted the four points. I think Paul Roos would have agreed with him.
  • footyhead
    Banned indefinitely by Moderators for posting totally inappropriate material
    • May 2003
    • 1367

    #2
    Well we got the 4 points.

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    • SXP

      #3
      I reckon you're onto somthing Go Swannies and must agree with some of those points, but I'll be more convinced when I see them playing againts better quality oppostion like the Cats and the Lions. I don't give much credit to the history of previous matches, because coaches frequently change tactics to make it more difficult for the opposition to counter act. It looked like that that was exactly happening last night and it was Paul Roos doing.
      I hope this will work in our advantage also in the future.

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      • Dave
        Let those truckers roll
        • Jan 2003
        • 1557

        #4
        Re: Roos' masterplan

        Originally posted by Go Swannies
        Tonight was an ugly win but it certainly served notice.
        I don't really think it was an "ugly" win as such. I thought it was a pretty good match for 3 quarters with the greasy conditions.

        It wasn't free flowing but I don't necessarily think that that automatically makes it a boring game. It was pretty hard in the packs sort of stuff.

        There were some Crows supporters behind me moaning about how it was the second worst game they'd ever seen, but that's only cause they could see their finals hopes evaporating and last weeks effort as an anomally.

        Another one in front had the hide to say that it wasn't a fair contest as they were understrength and we were at full strength!!! She was issued with the appropriate verbal beating!
        "My theory is that the universe is made out of stupidity because it's more plentiful than hydrogen" - Frank Zappa

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        • Go Swannies
          Veterans List
          • Sep 2003
          • 5697

          #5
          Re: Re: Roos' masterplan

          Originally posted by Dave


          Another one in front had the hide to say that it wasn't a fair contest as they were understrength and we were at full strength!!! She was issued with the appropriate verbal beating!
          I read somewhere that the Crows only had 26 players to select from - about the same as us for the Port game so maybe she had a point. But good to see she was ridiculed anyway - we were if we tried to make the same point.

          And wasn't it great to hear the roar that went up when Schauble ran onto the ground! It was so good to have him back - but odd to see he'd gone grey in the interim.

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          • NMWBloods
            Taking Refuge!!
            • Jan 2003
            • 15819

            #6
            Re: Roos' masterplan

            Originally posted by Go Swannies
            The Pies, Carlton and Crows went for man on man and all lost.

            We've won six out of the past seven - what team is travelling better?
            That we can beat teams in hard-fought slogs is a good point.

            However, as I've said before, it's worth remembering who we have beaten.

            A 1 pt win over the bottom side, who are easily the worst side in the competition.

            A 4 goal win at home over a bottom 4 side.

            An outstanding win over the top side.

            A thumping.

            A struggling 1 goal win over a midlle-of the road side.

            A come-from-behind 2 goal win over a bottom 4 side.

            An ordinary 2 goal win at home over a weak side.

            Not a lot there to get over-excited about, except the StKilda win. Remember the 'Dons fans were very happy with the way they were going until they ran into some good sides! Lets see how we do against some of the better sides - hopefully we can put it together for the whole game.
            Last edited by NMWBloods; 11 July 2004, 04:22 PM.
            Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

            "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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            • j0lly
              On the Rookie List
              • Jun 2004
              • 122

              #7
              we need all the wins we can get imo considering the miserable month we had at the first half of the season

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              • Swansinger
                Senior Player
                • Mar 2003
                • 1099

                #8
                Re: Roos' masterplan

                Originally posted by Go Swannies
                .

                Tonight was an ugly win but it certainly served notice. In the long aftermatch interview Roos said that his ideal game plan would have the final score at Crows 6 and Swans 9.

                After the Lions game I said it was such a great game I almost didn't care who won. Another fan said that he just wanted the four points. I think Paul Roos would have agreed with him.
                Do you think Roosy has been talking with Otto Rehhagel?

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                • Barry Schneider
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 530

                  #9
                  I think this Adelaide game was practise for the Geelong game.We will try to choke them which is the complete opposite of our previous clash.
                  I presume the conditions will be similar to worse and Geelong are now a free flowing confident team as opposed to the team we played in Sydney where Mark Thompson was favourite to get axed.
                  We are not at our best in the wet so this could be the tactic we use when we play good teams in the wet.

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                  • barry
                    Veterans List
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 8499

                    #10
                    Re: Re: Roos' masterplan

                    Originally posted by NMWBloods

                    I've noticed a neagtive frame of mind from you lately NMW.

                    A 1 pt win over the bottom side, who are easily the worst side in the competition.
                    Played man on man, close but we won.

                    A 4 goal win at home over a bottom 4 side.
                    4 goal win over bottom 4 side is acceptable.

                    An outstanding win over the top side.
                    Tried to play open game. We slaughtered them.

                    A thumping.
                    We could barely field a team, and they have a lot of motivation after last years finals.

                    A struggling 1 goal win over a midlle-of the road side.
                    Last years GF-alists? Again they tried the man on man, and we won.

                    A come-from-behind 2 goal win over a bottom 4 side.
                    Carlton are better than bottom 4, but again man on man, and we won.

                    An ordinary 2 goal win at home over a weak side.
                    Man on man, and we won. The scoreline flattered the Crows in my opinion. We stopped after 3/4 time.

                    Not a lot there to get over-excited about, except the StKilda win. Remember the 'Dons fans were very happy with the way they were going until they ran into some good sides! Lets see how we do against some of the better sides - hopefully we can put it together for the whole game.
                    True, big tests the next 3 weeks.

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                    • NMWBloods
                      Taking Refuge!!
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 15819

                      #11
                      Re: Re: Re: Roos' masterplan

                      Originally posted by barry
                      I've noticed a neagtive frame of mind from you lately NMW.
                      True, but I have found this year rather frustrating so far. I know we have had injuries, but the guys on the park are playing nowhere near as well as they did last year. It just feels at the moment like every other year when we promise something and don't deliver. We have a real chance this year, as we did in 96-98, but we don't seem to be grasping it strongly enough.
                      Played man on man, close but we won.
                      Hawthorn is barely struggling to be an AFL side - have a look at how poorly they have performed this year and all we could manage was a desperate 1 pt victory.
                      4 goal win over bottom 4 side is acceptable.
                      Barely - especially when it was a % boosting opportunity.

                      Last years GF-alists? Again they tried the man on man, and we won.
                      They may be last year grand finalists, but they've only won 5 games this year and they were missing Tarrant.
                      Carlton are better than bottom 4, but again man on man, and we won.
                      Without Fevola and Whitnall they're definitely bottom 4 - have a look at today's game.
                      Man on man, and we won. The scoreline flattered the Crows in my opinion. We stopped after 3/4 time.
                      Exactly - we played like crap after half time when the opportunity was there to boost percentage. It may have been man-on-man, but again it was from an ordinary side.
                      True, big tests the next 3 weeks.
                      Yep, at least we're winning and hopefully, as I noted in my match report after the Carlton game, we are beginning to build toward the end of the season. I haven't really seen a lot of signs yet, but we will get a good idea in the coming weeks.
                      Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                      "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                      • swansrule100
                        The quarterback
                        • May 2004
                        • 4538

                        #12
                        Ultimately this club must simply win.. if its ugly sadly we cant worry and cant really focus on who we beat and how bad they were or whatever... just treat each game individually... forget the crows it was a slog in crap conditions lets focus on the cats and take it one game at a time... and just win each game... no need to worry about the fact we may have struggled thus far forget it.
                        Theres not much left to say

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                        • Go Swannies
                          Veterans List
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 5697

                          #13
                          As Roos pointed out this weekend - we are just one win behind where we were this time last year. And we are a much more multifaceted team than last year. We even won in wet conditions!

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                          • floppinab
                            Senior Player
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 1681

                            #14
                            The thing that eats me a little is looking at our Forward 6, on paper that mob is capable of 12 - 14 games of 100+ scores easily.
                            We are going to get nowhere near that this year. Our percentage is the worst in the Top 9 by a fair margin.

                            Roos stated he was more than happy with this game, the key objective was to shut down a team that scored 20+ goals last week.

                            IMO we haven't got that balance of defensive and attacking footy right yet (remember that risk taking attacking footy we saw much more of last year). We've got the talent up forward to take a few more risks and thump in there a bit more regularly.

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                            • DST
                              The voice of reason!
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 2705

                              #15
                              We have a huge next 7 games coming up. I for one (and I hope the club itself is) exicted at this becuase at the end of it if we win 4 or 5 of the 7 games we will be seen as a legimate contender.

                              While the footy has not been pretty over the last 5 or so weeks, we have done something that has really caused us problems in the past, winning the close ones and being able to close down teams when it matters to get the win.

                              I think (as long as we have our best availlable) this new found belief and style of play will be extremely vaulable coem finals time.

                              DST
                              "Looking forward to a rebuilt, new, fast and exciting Swans model in 2010"

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