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  • Ruckman
    Ego alta, ergo ictus
    • Nov 2003
    • 3990

    #46
    Originally posted by swansrule100
    what happend between them i know nothing of it and feel left out
    WOW

    Well, it was "alleged" that the coach (Quade) remonstated with the captain (Round) in the very public carpark of the SCG after training over the nature of the "perceived" relationship between the coaches wife and the captain.

    It is "widely believed" that when push came to shove the coach ended up with a monstrous black eye.

    It is "alleged" that the captain lost his position and his place in the firsts, a little later it is further "supposed" that the reinstating of the captain and the resignation of the coach due to "ill health" also had something to do with the incident.

    Is that clear enough?

    In later episodes of "Ripleys Swans believe it or not" we'll discuss

    ~Tuddy and the Danihers,

    ~Why Wayne Carey + John Longmire = Adrian Battiston

    ~Silvio and Paul's Big Adventure

    ~Dean McRae and Shirley Bassey (Ron Barassi)

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    • Bear
      Best and Fairest
      • Feb 2003
      • 1022

      #47
      Anyway, getting back to relevant issues...

      the "get rid of Doyle" call is short-sighted. Perseverance, patience and foresight are required re Doyle, as well as a dose of understanding re his position and body type.

      I personally would like to see him given more of an opportunity out of the goal square, even if just as a decoy to take the opposition's ruckman away from Hall. I know Doyle can't take a contested make to save himself atm, but with more opportunity up forward his confidence should return in this area.

      Fosdike, Mathews and Ablett on the other hand are plentiful types who are replaceable/tradeable commodities - with #4 the only one that might bring a decent return.
      "As a player he simply should not have been able to do the things he did. Leo was a 185cm, 88kg full-back and played on some of the biggest, fastest and best full-forwards of all time, and constantly beat them." Roos.
      Leo Barry? you star! We'll miss ya, ''Leapin''.

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      • swansrule100
        The quarterback
        • May 2004
        • 4538

        #48
        thanks for the info i feel in the loop now!!!!


        as for doyle i say wait and see how he goes as number one ruckman!
        Theres not much left to say

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        • Diego
          Suspended by the MRP
          • Jan 2003
          • 946

          #49
          Why do we keep hanging on to mediocre players hoping they will turn the corner. The reason why our trophey cabnet has been empty for 70 odd years.

          Yet when we do get a player with raw talent we let him go.

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          • Ruckman
            Ego alta, ergo ictus
            • Nov 2003
            • 3990

            #50
            Originally posted by Bear
            Anyway, getting back to relevant issues...
            Bear or Boar?

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            • daniel f
              On the Rookie List
              • Aug 2003
              • 314

              #51
              Originally posted by Bart
              Not while Rick Quade is still on the board, you won't
              Was lead to believe that the two had kissed and made up in recent times as i have seen them both appear sitting together at functions quite recently,also from are you sure it wasnt the coach sleeping with the players wife,was the version ive heard many times.
              daniel f

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              • Bear
                Best and Fairest
                • Feb 2003
                • 1022

                #52
                Originally posted by Ruckman
                Bear or Boar?
                perhaps even Bore
                "As a player he simply should not have been able to do the things he did. Leo was a 185cm, 88kg full-back and played on some of the biggest, fastest and best full-forwards of all time, and constantly beat them." Roos.
                Leo Barry? you star! We'll miss ya, ''Leapin''.

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                • dread and might
                  Back, strapped and intact
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 949

                  #53
                  you can't teach height.

                  there is no reason to get rid of doyle considering what we have coming through the ranks. he should have a little more mobility when he is fully fit which i personally don't think he is. he'll never be super mobile i guess, but he is only playing in small bursts off the bench, when he becomes #1 the midfield will get used to where he puts the ball. i was suprised out at TS a few weeks ago when they were warming up how well he gets down to a low bouncing ball.

                  different point altogether; anyone suggesting magic should go has a seriously "different" way of looking at things.
                  I wish my weed was EMO so it would cut itself

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                  • Doctor J.
                    Senior Player
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 1310

                    #54
                    Originally posted by BBB
                    Barry, you have hit the nail on the head.

                    I spoke at length with DrJ about this a few weeks back.

                    Our midfield setup is very defensive at ball-ups and centre square because Ball rarely gets clean tap-outs. Doyle gets way more clean touches but the midfield setup remains the same.

                    When Doyle is contesting we need to roll the dice a bit and get some numbers forward so when Doyle punches the ball forward it may go to advantage.

                    Doyle is vital to our future and I think he is a gun, not just at the minute. Anybody who thinks 'he must go' truly has NFI, IMO.

                    Please footy gods, let the man have an injury free, full pre-season.

                    Absolutely.
                    Watch the game against Carlton again. Doyle gets numerous hitouts that go forward of the contest yet our midfield setup is to be defensive side of the contest.

                    Doyle will be OK. In terms of games, he has played not more than 30, and people here want to get rid of him. Footballers his size and talent don't grow on trees, and ruckmen take a long long time to mature.

                    As for the Quade/Round feud. I was at a Swans function last year, and walked up the stairs behind both of them who were chatting very amicably. Certainly didn't look like a couple of blokes feuding to me

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                    • NMWBloods
                      Taking Refuge!!
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 15819

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Doctor J.
                      Absolutely.
                      Watch the game against Carlton again. Doyle gets numerous hitouts that go forward of the contest yet our midfield setup is to be defensive side of the contest.
                      Why can't Doyle change his hitouts to suit the midfield setup - hit it behind him instead of forward?
                      Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                      "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                      • Newbie
                        On the Rookie List
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 720

                        #56
                        Originally posted by NMWBloods
                        Why can't Doyle change his hitouts to suit the midfield setup - hit it behind him instead of forward?
                        This is a chicken-and-egg problem. Probably they never play long enough as an unit to have a feel for others. As the result, Doyle does not know where the midfielders would want the ball, no the midfielders know where Doyle is palming the ball too. Will improve the longer they gel.

                        Mind you, changing the way of playing with both feets off the ground is way harder than if they are firmly on the ground.

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                        • NMWBloods
                          Taking Refuge!!
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 15819

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Newbie
                          This is a chicken-and-egg problem. Probably they never play long enough as an unit to have a feel for others. As the result, Doyle does not know where the midfielders would want the ball, no the midfielders know where Doyle is palming the ball too.
                          As they tend to set up much the same way and they must practice together, I find this rationale a bit of a stretch.
                          Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                          "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                          • NMWBloods
                            Taking Refuge!!
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 15819

                            #58
                            If Ball does retire at the end of this year and we can't secure Ottens, I wonder if we should have a look at Beau McDonald. I know he has had injuries over the past two years, and of course that would need to be assessed closely, but he is a good quality tap ruckman, who is going to struggle for a spot at Brisbane now, and could be a useful tandem with Doyle.
                            Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                            "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                            • swansrule100
                              The quarterback
                              • May 2004
                              • 4538

                              #59
                              macdonald could be like rehn at hawthorn though!! but its not a bad idea!
                              Theres not much left to say

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                              • Triple B
                                Formerly 'BBB'
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 6999

                                #60
                                Why can't Doyle change his hitouts to suit the midfield setup - hit it behind him instead of forward?
                                What's the point??? So you would rather he hit the ball towards the opponents goal for our midfield to fumble rather than hit it 10 metres towards our goal for our midfield to fumble.

                                Reggi's spot on!
                                Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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