Roos praising @@@@house players again

[footyhead]

Paul Roos is up to his now familiar tricks again.
The team plays like @@@@ and he looks for excuses, and praises the players for having a dip!!
What a dill.

Paul Roos : ?The players are having a real crack and that is all you can ask from the group knowing that a lot of them are under limitations.?

http://sydneyswans.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=162108

[SWANSBEST]

"Under limitations " meaning not fit. Surely it is better to play a fit Reserves player than very unfit player like Schneider . A few weeks in the Reserves would help get Schneider back to fitness.


All season we have played people who are injured and it has not worked and now we are also playing players who can not play a full game because of lack of condition ie [lack of miles in legs]

It is about time the coaching staff addressed these problems.

[Mike_B]

?When you have got 15 or 16 guys out of your 22 that are match fit?that was probably the difference.

Its Round 17 for crying out loud? How can you have 6 or 7 guys not fit enough to play??? That smacks of ineptitude

?A lot of them don?t train ? it is hard to keep your skill level up if you are not training and it came back to haunt us today.

Then play guys who do train and do have the skills. Simple.

[Sid]

Schneids has to get a run in the reserves after todays efforts.

[desredandwhite]

Originally posted by Sid
Schneids has to get a run in the reserves after todays efforts.

If he had come back through reserves like he was supposed to, he would (probably) be fit and firing by now!

[CureTheSane]

All specualtion.

I'd say that Roos was still hoping the players would run into some great form and we might carry taht into the finals.

Now that it is looking 'dire' for us if we make the 8, I'd say we will see changes.

Or maybe not.

I mean shouldn't we have been playing youth and uninjured players with Roos' long term plan?

I don't know. That is why the Swans need to allow more access from us (the fans0 to pose these sorts of questions.

What are his motivations?
What is he trying to accomplish in the short term?
How is his long tem plan tracking?
etc

I'm sure the Swans look at this board all teh time as a small core group of die hard fans who are perhaps overly critical, but in reality, we reflect the public as a whole.

For the sake of simply answering 20 questions every 5 weeks or so the record could be set straight to an extent...

[Diego]

Its starting to smell like the final Eade years all over again.

I hope the board and the club doesn't have a say in this in terms of marketable players not playing. If this is the case i refuse to support them and rather just be a neutral football lover.

C'mon Paul stop giving lame excuses and act now. We are not going to win the flag this year, that's the reality of it and most players peaked last year.

So instead of playing injured players. Let them rest for next year and play some of the young guns who are firing in the 2nds.

What have we got to lose? A spot in the bottom 8 so then we can be fodder for a top 4 side.

I rather not thanks Mr Roos.

[gloveski]

I think Roosy is a great coach but I am critical of him playing people who are either injured or not match fit.Surely playing players who are injured ruins there longivity in the game.
Players like Mcglone & Dempster should be given a game, I thought we were rebuilding or does the coaching staff think we have a good enough team.If they think that well sadly they are mistaken

[chammond]

Originally posted by Diego
Its starting to smell like the final Eade years all over again.

I hope the board and the club doesn't have a say in this in terms of marketable players not playing. If this is the case i refuse to support them and rather just be a neutral football lover.

Bewdy!

Just shut the door quietly on your way out . . . .

[Diego]

Originally posted by chammond
Bewdy!

Just shut the door quietly on your way out . . . .

So are you like the blind fools on this board who sit there and lap up the crap we are being served?

Are you honestly happy with whats going?

[Ruda Wakening]

Re: Roos praising @@@@house players again

Originally posted by footyhead
Paul Roos : ?The players are having a real crack and that is all you can ask from the group knowing that a lot of them are under limitations.?

What else can he say?


I'd imagine from a coaches perspective that considering his team are in the 8, he has to do what he has to do, to try and stay there.

If that means playing more experienced senior players who at this time last year were instrumental in helping them get within a quarter of a grand final -- even though they might be underdone atm.... then so be it.

In going along with that, maybe he thinks that using your head and your experience is the quickest way around a football field, or maybe he thinks that some of the kids who he hasn't really played this year aren't quite up to playing under the pressure of pursuing finals. Whichever one it is, i'm sure he's doing it for a reason.

If you want to think long term, think of the damage it would do to a young kid if he was to be thrown into his first senior game about now when once again from a coaches perspective he's trying his upmost to keep his teams finals chances alive, and the kid performed poorly.

I think people are being too harsh on Paul Roo's and his staff. Afterall they can only coach what they have, and at this stage they don't have much left. He can only make do with what he's got.

The way I see it, the teams made up of veterans who are injured, kids who are inexperienced and or injured, or players who lack sheer ability and football sense ( with the exception of a couple).

Obviously his long term plan is to endeavour to rectify that, so why hang the guy now?

[Damien]

Re: Re: Roos praising @@@@house players again

Originally posted by Ruda Wakening
What else can he say?

He should be saying that he expected the side his picked to be good enough today to win.

I have always thought loser clubs blamed injuries. I am dissapointed Roosey isn't a bit angry.

[JF_Bay22_SCG]

Originally posted by Diego
So are you like the blind fools on this board who sit there and lap up the crap we are being served?

Are you honestly happy with whats going?

Guys, let's not over-react now. The football we played was woeful at time yesterday, yet we still very nearly stole the game from the Dockers.

Last season we had a pretty decent run with injuries. This year it hasn't been the case. As shown by our game at Port we just do NOT have the depth to cope with that. There are no magic cures for this. We will just have to live with the players we have.

Roosey's aim is to put the best team he can onto the field. That often requires having to play only semi-fit players. For this reason Nicky Davis is playing in Canberra rather than Perth. This is a good move. It may been been better for Adam Schneider to play in Canberra this weekend too. But it may not have been the best thing for the Sydney Footy Club's senior team.

All you people screaming about resting unfit players, where are we going to find replacements for those out? Schauble has been out for yonks yet is highly serviceable every week. Shouldn't he be playing in Canberra too because he isnt match-fit yet?

Or are we going to see players like Thewlis come in, make mistakes, get crucified by nongs on this board, lose their confidence, and return to the Magoos shells of the players they could perhaps be. Seriously, think of the big picture of things, some of you lot.

Goodesey lack of fitness and body endurance is common knowledge to everyone. Are we saying we should not play him? He has bung knees, so playing him on the ball is not only suicide, but a huge risk to our most important piece of cattle.

We arrived in Perth not ready to play. The Dockers were lightning quick in our defensive 50 to stop our play-on running type of football. We buckled under this pressure and made some horrendous skill errors both under pressure or (even) worse when in totally open space. This is the area where I think Roosey has to work with the players at. When our intensity level is down our skill level is atrocious. But when you are firing out 10 handballs to get to half back, it is only to be expected that some of these are going to eventually go to the wrong person. Especially when your confidence is shot, as it was yesterday.

So of you people on this forum need to have a serious look at yourselves. To hear people publicly saying that they are going to stop following to the team because we are losing is pathetic.

Yes losing sucks. Did it make me happy, well hell no! Try seeing how I felt at half time yesterday having known that $500+ to get over here was going down the gurgler (when I'm broke until next pay day).Some of your guys should start becoming a little more realistic about things after losses.

You never know, this same old team is ideosyncratic enough to really test Brisbane next Saturday.

Or are some of you sooks going to start hopping off the bandwagon now because things aren't going as well as you were hoping?

I'm in, are all you lot!?

JF

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by JF_Bay22_SCG
Guys, let's not over-react now. The football we played was woeful at time yesterday, yet we still very nearly stole the game from the Dockers.

But we didn't!!!! We lost!! When people complain that we only just won over some weak teams, the usual comeback was 'well we won, and that's what matters, so stop complaining.' Well, you can't have it both ways - we lost, so we didn't win and that's what matters!!

Last season we had a pretty decent run with injuries. This year it hasn't been the case. As shown by our game at Port we just do NOT have the depth to cope with that. There are no magic cures for this. We will just have to live with the players we have.

Who is injured and not in the team at the moment? Davis and Saddington! Enough excuses!! Other teams have injury problems too. It simply indicates that we don't have the ability in the team that some thought.

Roosey's aim is to put the best team he can onto the field. That often requires having to play only semi-fit players. For this reason Nicky Davis is playing in Canberra rather than Perth. This is a good move. It may been been better for Adam Schneider to play in Canberra this weekend too. But it may not have been the best thing for the Sydney Footy Club's senior team.

Yes it would have - a fully-fit youngster would have been better than Schneider in every single game since he came back. It is arguable that a fully-fit youngster may have been better than a half-fit Williams or Goodes too.

All you people screaming about resting unfit players, where are we going to find replacements for those out? Schauble has been out for yonks yet is highly serviceable every week. Shouldn't he be playing in Canberra too because he isnt match-fit yet?

But he did start off in the reserves and now he has come back in and is holding his place in the side.

Or are we going to see players like Thewlis come in, make mistakes, get crucified by nongs on this board, lose their confidence, and return to the Magoos shells of the players they could perhaps be. Seriously, think of the big picture of things, some of you lot.

The big picture is that playing injured players is potentially bad for their long-term career and adds little to the side.

Goodesey lack of fitness and body endurance is common knowledge to everyone. Are we saying we should not play him? He has bung knees, so playing him on the ball is not only suicide, but a huge risk to our most important piece of cattle.

So why play him at all if he's not fully fit?

Especially when your confidence is shot, as it was yesterday.

Why is our confidence shot? As so many people kept saying, we had won 6 of our previous 7 games. How much better run-in to the match do we need?

You never know, this same old team is ideosyncratic enough to really test Brisbane next Saturday.

So? Being as haphazard as this in our performance as this does not make for a good team.

I'm in, are all you lot!?

I seem to remember people saying this last week and the week before and the week before and... Let people get upset when they want to - it is very frustrating and annoying to watch your team lose and being told to 'buck up, it'll be right if you truly believe' wears thin after a while!

[Diego]

Originally posted by JF_Bay22_SCG
Guys, let's not over-react now. The football we played was woeful at time yesterday, yet we still very nearly stole the game from the Dockers.

Last season we had a pretty decent run with injuries. This year it hasn't been the case. As shown by our game at Port we just do NOT have the depth to cope with that. There are no magic cures for this. We will just have to live with the players we have.

Roosey's aim is to put the best team he can onto the field. That often requires having to play only semi-fit players. For this reason Nicky Davis is playing in Canberra rather than Perth. This is a good move. It may been been better for Adam Schneider to play in Canberra this weekend too. But it may not have been the best thing for the Sydney Footy Club's senior team.

All you people screaming about resting unfit players, where are we going to find replacements for those out? Schauble has been out for yonks yet is highly serviceable every week. Shouldn't he be playing in Canberra too because he isnt match-fit yet?

Or are we going to see players like Thewlis come in, make mistakes, get crucified by nongs on this board, lose their confidence, and return to the Magoos shells of the players they could perhaps be. Seriously, think of the big picture of things, some of you lot.

Goodesey lack of fitness and body endurance is common knowledge to everyone. Are we saying we should not play him? He has bung knees, so playing him on the ball is not only suicide, but a huge risk to our most important piece of cattle.

We arrived in Perth not ready to play. The Dockers were lightning quick in our defensive 50 to stop our play-on running type of football. We buckled under this pressure and made some horrendous skill errors both under pressure or (even) worse when in totally open space. This is the area where I think Roosey has to work with the players at. When our intensity level is down our skill level is atrocious. But when you are firing out 10 handballs to get to half back, it is only to be expected that some of these are going to eventually go to the wrong person. Especially when your confidence is shot, as it was yesterday.

So of you people on this forum need to have a serious look at yourselves. To hear people publicly saying that they are going to stop following to the team because we are losing is pathetic.

Yes losing sucks. Did it make me happy, well hell no! Try seeing how I felt at half time yesterday having known that $500+ to get over here was going down the gurgler (when I'm broke until next pay day).Some of your guys should start becoming a little more realistic about things after losses.

You never know, this same old team is ideosyncratic enough to really test Brisbane next Saturday.

Or are some of you sooks going to start hopping off the bandwagon now because things aren't going as well as you were hoping?

I'm in, are all you lot!?

JF

I find this a patronising post to most of us on here who do watch the swans every week. Who are you to judge what we do Jules? You are just a cheer squad person at the end of the day. nothing more.

So what if you follow the team around, does that make you mightier than all of us? I find it pathetic you even had to mention you spent 500 bucks this weekend. Do i care? No. That's your problem not mine, sucks to be you.

Anyway.

Do you honestly think playing Adam goodes atm is valid enough b/c we can't find others to replace him? Count in the past 2 - 3 games the amount of times Adam has just given away goals due to his lack of mobility. He is liability.
He also zones off his opponent too much to be a KPP down back IMHO.

I rather have LRT or even Heath James out there knowing they will have that extra mobility that Goodes lacks ATM.

Did playing an injured (did you see the bruising on his ankle) "Nicky" Davis in Adelaide add much?

Get what i am saying?