Newspaper asks for you to have your say on Barry Hall n Umpires

[Bron]

Me too.

I've printed the list. Am going to the member get member function after the night for the fans (will be there too) tonight and will give Bazza a copy so he knows that there is support out there.

[CureTheSane]

Tell him CTS says "hi"

[Thunder Shaker]

Statistics!

OK, how about some statistics?
1. Seasons prior to 1998 are not included because statistics for frees weren't listed
2. For/Against is frees for divided by frees against
Source: http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/p...arry_Hall.html

http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/players/M/Matthew_Lloyd.html

http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/players/D/David_Neitz.html

Barry Hall at St Kilda

            Frees Frees
Year  Games For   Against         
1998   13     6    11 
1999   20    22    37 
2000   19    12    22 
2001   17    12    19 
Total  69    52    89
Per Game    0.75  1.29
For/Against 0.58

Barry Hall at Sydney

            Frees Frees
Year  Games For   Against   
2002   17     8    24
2003   24     9    32
2004   17    13    26
Total  58    30    82
Per Game    0.52  1.41
For/Against 0.37


Matthew Lloyd
            Frees Frees
Year  Games For   Against   
1998   23    17    34 
1999   22    19    26 
2000   25    31    35 
2001   21    18    24 
2002   16    17    15 
2003   22    18    18 
2004   17    23    17 
Total 146   143   169
Per Game    0.98  1.16
For/Against 0.85


David Neitz
            Frees Frees
Year  Games For   Against   
1998   14    11    17 
1999   18    13    28 
2000   21    16    16 
2001   22    18    27 
2002   24    13    25 
2003   22    19    36 
2004   17    13    14 
Total 138   103   163
Per Game    0.75  1.18
For/Against 0.63

[mja]

Re: Statistics!

good old stats... "lies lies and damm statistics"
ok my go ..lets look at trends based on the based on the above numbers

year - avg for a game - against pg - ratio f/a

98 - 0.46 - 0.85 - 0.55
99 - 1.10 - 1.85 - 0.59
00 - 0.63 - 1.16 - 0.55
01 - 0.71 - 1.12 - 0.63
02 - 0.47 - 1.41 - 0.33
03 - 0.38 - 1.33 - 0.28
04 - 0.76 - 1.53 - 0.50


For frees are looking a bit better ... against getting worse ... almost back to BBBH days ..but look at the frees for then (ie 99)
But F/A is best for three years ...

[NMWBloods]

This is some data I put on BF:

Hall has received just 30 free kicks in his past 58 games (0.52 per game).

As a comparison:

- Tredrea 65 in 64 games (1.02)
- Lloyd 58 in 55 games (1.05)
- Lynch 42 in 51 games (0.82)
- A Rocca 51 in 62 games (0.82)
- J Brown 51 in 49 games (1.04)
- Richardson 57 in 44 games (1.23)
- Fevola 38 in 36 games (1.06)
- Neitz 45 in 63 games (0.71)

[Bron]

Originally posted by Bron
Me too.

I've printed the list. Am going to the member get member function after the night for the fans (will be there too) tonight and will give Bazza a copy so he knows that there is support out there.

No Baz at the function, will post the printout in.

[Thunder Shaker]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
This is some data I put on BF:

Hall has received just 30 free kicks in his past 58 games (0.52 per game).

As a comparison:

- Tredrea 65 in 64 games (1.02)
- Lloyd 58 in 55 games (1.05)
- Lynch 42 in 51 games (0.82)
- A Rocca 51 in 62 games (0.82)
- J Brown 51 in 49 games (1.04)
- Richardson 57 in 44 games (1.23)
- Fevola 38 in 36 games (1.06)
- Neitz 45 in 63 games (0.71)

Let's examine this a little deeper. (NOTE: These stats are for 2002-2004, and I have corrected a couple of typos)

                        Frees   Per     Frees   Per     Ratio
                Games   For     Game    Against Game    F/A
Tredrea         64      65      1.02    41      0.64    1.59
Lloyd           55      58      1.05    50      0.91    1.16
Richardson      45      58      1.23    66      1.47    0.88
Brown J         49      51      1.04    62      1.27    0.82
Fevola          46      39      1.06    51      1.11    0.76
Rocca A         62      51      0.82    79      1.27    0.65
Lynch           50      44      0.88    71      1.42    0.62
Neitz           63      45      0.71    75      1.19    0.60
Hall            58      30      0.52    82      1.41    0.37

* Bazza has the fewest number of frees for, and the greatest number of frees against.
* Tredrea gets by far the best treatment from the umps. Is he a known stager?

[Thunder Shaker]

Other players from the 2004 top 10 goalkickers not already listed:

                        Frees   Per     Frees   Per     Ratio
                Games   For     Game    Against Game    F/A
Gehrig          48      32      0.67    52      1.08    0.62
Matera Ph       57      42      0.74    48      0.84    0.88
Riewoldt        61      52      0.85    22      0.36    2.36
Milne           52      35      0.67    45      0.87    0.78