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Originally posted by dawson I have never bagged a player ever and didn't understand what people had against Saddo (We really missed him on Sat night in that last quarter!) but I have to say that Doyle is severely testing my paitence.
34 Games
92 kicks
51 marks
76 Handballs
168 disposals
15 goals
303 hitouts
23 frees for
32 free against
This is a joke! He averages just over 4 possessions a game!
1.5 marks a game! This isnt including his poor disposal and his inabilty to catch the ball.
Lets compare him to Brad Ottens
129 games
896 kicks
666 marks
702 handballs
1598 disposal
152 goals
2015 hitouts
154 frees for
He has to go - its not funny anymore
Dawson, how much time does Ottens spend on the bench? How much time does Doyle spend in positions other than ruck when he is on the ground? The answer to both those questions is not much. But Doyle spends a lot of time on the bench, and Ottens spends a lot of time in positions other than ruck. So their stats can not really be compared.
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I am willing to bet anyone $500 that Doyle will be on the list next year! He has to be, and he will improve with an injury free preparation. MJ won't be on the list IMHO.
Also, there is now way we will get Ottens - I wouldn't even waste a minute thinking about him. Adelaide would surely be the front runner or even another Melbourne based club - perhaps Hawthorn as Spider is getting on.
Hille is the only bloke of reasonable quality that I could see being let go for the right trade. Jamar at Melbourne is OK too.
Originally posted by Foreign Legion How old is Lade? I thought he was about 30?
He'll be 29 in June next year. So you'd guess he has perhaps another 3-4 seasons left.
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I agree that his lack of game time limits his ability to rack up the numbers but he has never done anything singular one thing in a game which has impressed me.
To the contrary his skill errors are an issue especially giving away free kicks in the ruck and not being able to take marks.
I thought the first 3/4 last week were about the best I'd seen Doyle play (which is not saying a great deal I'll admit). IMO he needs to be a bit heavier and stronger. He seems to get his hands on it a fair bit but cannot hang on to it or can tap to advantage because he is getting moved around so much. Put him on the Nick Davis' diet.
Originally posted by sharpie Dawson, how much time does Ottens spend on the bench? How much time does Doyle spend in positions other than ruck when he is on the ground?\
Must agree with Sharpie, Doyle has been second ruck at best for a short time, with some injury worries. Compare to Darren Jolly or whatever. IMHO I happen to think he might come through, it's chancey I know, but you just cannot throw away ruckmen anyway.
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Originally posted by NMWBloods He'll be 29 in June next year. So you'd guess he has perhaps another 3-4 seasons left.
Yep, NMW he is younger than I thought by a year or two. BUT, I can't see Port letting him go with Primus being such a dodgy long term proposition due to injuries.
I reckon Goodesy should just run as Ruck Rover next year as this will take some of the pressure off Doyle at boundary throw ins etc.
Originally posted by Foreign Legion Yep, NMW he is younger than I thought by a year or two. BUT, I can't see Port letting him go with Primus being such a dodgy long term proposition due to injuries.
No - I think there is virtually no chance Lade will leave Port. He is too useful for them.
I reckon Goodesy should just run as Ruck Rover next year as this will take some of the pressure off Doyle at boundary throw ins etc.
Absolutely - I've been saying this all year.
Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.
"[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."
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