Ryan " Clangers" O Keefe

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by swansrule100
why u in hell??

Back to work - see other thread!

[BonBon]

Here...

http://redandwhiteonline.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6810

[Nolie]

Originally posted by Hitman44
Liz,

Very intersting, perhaps you have shot me down with that Inside 50's stat.....

Where do you get your stats ? Does it list CLANGERS as well as I would be very interested in seeing them for the year.

What the bloody hell is a clanger? Another useless stat . In the past five or so years the statisticians ( not a bad job by all accounts - they get paid quite well) have invented a vast array of meaningless statistics.Eg What the hell is a hard ball get? And what does it prove? A load of bulldust IMO.

Channel 10 (esp. Steve Quartermain) gives me the irritates in this regard. Always quoting, displaying and getting excited over puerile stats - "Number of inside 50's" - whats the point if you're not kicking goals? So what?

[NMWBloods]

Inside 50s is a good stat.

Clangers is a nearly useless stat as it is too subjective.

What they are trying to do is copy basketball, which has turnovers, however it's a different style of game.

[ScottH]

Does Clanger = Unforced Error??

or is it just poor/ineffective disposal??

[Mike_B]

Originally posted by ScottH
Does Clanger = Unforced Error??

or is it just poor/ineffective disposal??

Yeah...clanger = dumping a backhand volley into the net....hehe

Actually...its a direct turnover, OOBOTF, Free against...it encompasses way too many things IMHO.

[ScottH]

Originally posted by Mike_B
Yeah...clanger = dumping a backhand volley into the net....hehe

Actually...its a direct turnover, OOBOTF, Free against...it encompasses way too many things IMHO.

Too much tennis for you!!!

[Hitman44]

I look at a clanger as basically a F$%K UP !

So when the player F$%KS UP it is usally noted as a clanger.

It is usally pretty obvious, what did we all think the Pepples kick off the ground towards goal on Friday night ?

CLANGER

[NMWBloods]

One problem with clangers is that it doesn't include certain stuff ups, like making the extra unnecessary handball that puts players into trouble, or passing to a player in the open, missing them badly and either resulting in a ball up or forcing the team to reset and tbus missing a good opportunity. It also doesn't reflect missed tackles or being too far from your opponent.

[ROK Lobster]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
One problem with clangers is that it doesn't include certain stuff ups, like making the extra unnecessary handball that puts players into trouble, or passing to a player in the open, missing them badly and either resulting in a ball up or forcing the team to reset and tbus missing a good opportunity. It also doesn't reflect missed tackles or being too far from your opponent.

Rather than "clangers" they should be called "MFU's". They could then encompass a few more things. But as has been said already they are too subjective to be of any real use. Does a kick to a contest at the top of the square well marked by an opposition back count as a clanger?

[Snowy]

yes clangers is a nebulous concept by definition. Contentious free kicks go down as clangers.

[Hitman44]

MFU's

I like it !

[BonBon]

Originally posted by Hitman44
MFU's

I like it !

MFU= ______ @@@@ Ups?

[ROK Lobster]

Originally posted by BonBon
MFU= ______ @@@@ Ups?

Monumental

[ScottH]

Originally posted by ROK Lobster
Monumental

Memorable????