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  • Charlie
    On the Rookie List
    • Jan 2003
    • 4101

    TLM announcement - rounds 5 and 6

    Welcome to the third edition of the 2004 Troy Luff Medal countdown! Having covered four rounds, the season is well under way and we can expect to see some trends developing. Will one player ? or small group ? make a break from the pack, or will the voting be an even spread across the team? The next couple of rounds will answer some of these questions, at least for a while.

    The leaderboard as at round four:
    11 votes ? Barry Hall
    8 ? Adam Goodes
    7 ? Paul Williams
    6 ? Brett Kirk
    5 ? Ben Mathews, Jared Crouch, Heath James
    4 ? Tadhg Kennelly
    3 ? Leo Barry, Nic Fosdike
    2 ? Nick Davis, Jason Saddington

    Round five saw the Swans back in Sydney, playing their first game of the season at Stadium Australia and the first game there against Melbourne. Despite being at the home of Swans blockbusters, the game enjoyed little fanfare; Melbourne were one of the competition?s strugglers in 2003 and not the sort of team that could expect to draw a large crowd in Sydney.

    Nonetheless, the Demons had won their last three matches and the 33,000 who turned up saw more of a contest than would have been expected pre-season. It was a see-sawing encounter in which neither team could get a clear break. Throughout, the forwards dominated. For the Swans, both Barry Hall and Nick Davis ? back for his first game since injuring his hip ? kicked four goals, but at the other end David Neitz kicked six and proved too much for inexperienced defender Heath James. The Melbourne captain?s dominance would be the deciding factor in the match, with the Demons winning by two goals.

    The Swans were once again shown that the opposition had caught up over summer. Unlike the Geelong game two weeks earlier, however, it would cost them four points.

    The votes:
    5 votes ? Barry Hall
    4 ? Brett Kirk
    3 ? Nick Davis
    2 ? Jared Crouch
    1 ? Paul Williams

    Congratulations to the five players who polled this week. Barry Hall has made the early break, with Brett Kirk six votes behind.

    The next week, the Swans travelled to Melbourne for the first time in 2004, to take on the Bombers at the MCG in an important match for both teams. Both the Bombers and Swans sat on three wins and two losses; the victor would stay within touch of the competition leaders while the loser would be back in the pack.

    With this in mind, the circumstances in which this game became an Essendon win are even more disappointing. The Swans fought back hard after falling a long way behind, but in the end the result was out of their hands. We all know what happened in the last quarter of that game, and can only hope it doesn?t happen again. Despite the ten point loss, Barry Hall once again dominated and Ryan O?Keefe played one of his best games yet. Leo Barry also distinguished himself at full-back, allowing Matthew Lloyd only three goals.

    The votes:
    5 ? Barry Hall
    4 ? Paul Bevan
    3 ? Ryan O?Keefe
    2 ? Leo Barry
    1 ? Adam Schneider

    Congratulations to all five, particularly Paul Bevan who polls his first ever Troy Luff Medal votes. Hopefully they are the first of many.

    So, with six rounds done, Barry Hall has raced to a commanding lead of 11 votes. Even with three quarters of the season remaining, with many more outstanding performances, he will be hard to beat.

    From now, only the top ten will be named each week on the leaderboard:
    21 votes ? Barry Hall
    10 ? Brett Kirk
    8 ? Adam Goodes, Paul Williams
    7 ? Jared Crouch
    5 ? Leo Barry, Nick Davis, Heath James, Ben Mathews
    4 ? Paul Bevan, Tadhg Kennelly

    Join me again tomorrow night as we look at rounds seven and eight. Please post any thoughts on this thread.

    Charlie
    We hate Anthony Rocca
    We hate Shannon Grant too
    We hate scumbag Gaspar
    But Leo WE LOVE YOU!
  • swansrule100
    The quarterback
    • May 2004
    • 4538

    #2
    barry hall gets the votes he deserves on here unlike the brownlow

    will the swans b+f be on fox footy?
    Theres not much left to say

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    • liz
      Veteran
      Site Admin
      • Jan 2003
      • 16778

      #3
      Re: TLM announcement - rounds 5 and 6

      Originally posted by Charlie
      The Swans fought back hard after falling a long way behind, but in the end the result was out of their hands. We all know what happened in the last quarter of that game, and can only hope it doesn?t happen again.

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      • Damien
        Living in 2005
        • Jan 2003
        • 3713

        #4
        Re: TLM announcement - rounds 5 and 6

        Originally posted by Charlie

        With this in mind, the circumstances in which this game became an Essendon win are even more disappointing. The Swans fought back hard after falling a long way behind, but in the end the result was out of their hands. We all know what happened in the last quarter of that game, and can only hope it doesn?t happen again. Despite the ten point loss, Barry Hall once again dominated and Ryan O?Keefe played one of his best games yet. Leo Barry also distinguished himself at full-back, allowing Matthew Lloyd only three goals.
        Talking about umpiring Charlie?

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        • cruiser
          What the frack!
          • Jul 2004
          • 6114

          #5
          He must be. I left that game before the final siren because I was so angry about the umpiring and had just seen our comeback and chance of victory taken from us by an appalling decision that gave Essendon a match sealing goal. The worse umpiring for the year. Standing on the train platform at Richmond station all of the Swans supporters were complaining bitterly about it.
          Occupational hazards:
          I don't eat animals since discovering this ability. I used to. But one day the lamb I was eating came through to me and ever since then I haven't been able to eat meat.
          - animal psychic Amanda de Warren

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          • Charlie
            On the Rookie List
            • Jan 2003
            • 4101

            #6
            That would be correct. I tried to word that paragraph to suggest it influenced the result, without being the sole determining factor. Did I not succeed? If not, I'll change it before it's put in the book.
            We hate Anthony Rocca
            We hate Shannon Grant too
            We hate scumbag Gaspar
            But Leo WE LOVE YOU!

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            • liz
              Veteran
              Site Admin
              • Jan 2003
              • 16778

              #7
              Originally posted by Charlie
              That would be correct. I tried to word that paragraph to suggest it influenced the result, without being the sole determining factor. Did I not succeed? If not, I'll change it before it's put in the book.
              I thought you over played the influence. I know we were all livid about a couple of the umpiring decisions during that quarter that, in our opinions, took away any chance the Swans had to win the game. But in reality, so ordinary were the efforts in the second and third quarters that we didn't really deserve to win it. It would definitely have been a "snatch" had the team pulled it off.

              Your comments that we should hope it never happens again seemed a bit of out place to me - if there's one thing as certain as death and taxes is that there will be an umpiring decision (or two) late in a game in the very near future that we, at least, will believe cost us the game. It's just a fact of life of being a passionate (not to mention one-eyed) fan.

              Your comments seemed to me to be describing the events of the final quarter against the Roos when something happened that we truly hope never ever happens again. I'm not trying to reopen the discussion about whether the tragedy influenced the outcome, but it was something that made the result seem empty and meaningless.

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              • NMWBloods
                Taking Refuge!!
                • Jan 2003
                • 15819

                #8
                Yep - I would have just said that two extremely poor (or whatever wording) decision halted the Swans comeback, or something to that effect. I wouldn't say it was taken out of their hands as they put themselves in that position to begin with and they were responsible for the loss, not the umpires.
                Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                • Charlie
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 4101

                  #9
                  Ok - sorry about that. I may edit it slightly for the book, then.
                  We hate Anthony Rocca
                  We hate Shannon Grant too
                  We hate scumbag Gaspar
                  But Leo WE LOVE YOU!

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                  • penga
                    Senior Player
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 2601

                    #10
                    Re: TLM announcement - rounds 5 and 6

                    Originally posted by Charlie
                    We all know what happened in the last quarter of that game, and can only hope it doesn?t happen again.
                    i know what charlie meant:

                    adam schneider snapped his hamstring while single-handedly turning the game around in the last quarter to have a sniff of victory, but alas, his injury stopped our momentum. we hope adam schneider never gets injured again!

                    FWIW: that game, IMO, was schneider's best; and proof that he does have a future in the middle as a match-winning midfielder... im looking forward to watching the replay on fox footy once the season finishes!
                    C'mon Chels!

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                    • ScottH
                      It's Goodes to cheer!!
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 23665

                      #11
                      Re: Re: TLM announcement - rounds 5 and 6

                      Originally posted by penga
                      i know what charlie meant:

                      adam schneider snapped his hamstring while single-handedly turning the game around in the last quarter to have a sniff of victory, but alas, his injury stopped our momentum. we hope adam schneider never gets injured again!

                      FWIW: that game, IMO, was schneider's best; and proof that he does have a future in the middle as a match-winning midfielder... im looking forward to watching the replay on fox footy once the season finishes!
                      Schnieder, Davis and Goodes, They playted briliantly, then get injured and are crap for the rest of the season. Injuries Suck!!!!

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