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  • barry
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2003
    • 8499

    Goodes

    Its pretty obvious from our desperation to grab any ruckman in this years trading,and pay over the odds, that Goodes wont be rucking for us.

    So where do we play him ?
  • timthefish
    Regular in the Side
    • Sep 2003
    • 940

    #2
    wing
    then again, i think it would be worth trying 15-16 players on field so what would i know

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    • NMWBloods
      Taking Refuge!!
      • Jan 2003
      • 15819

      #3
      Ruck rover - I think he should be in the centre for bounces.
      Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

      "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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      • ROK Lobster
        RWO Life Member
        • Aug 2004
        • 8658

        #4
        Re: Goodes

        Originally posted by barry
        Its pretty obvious from our desperation to grab any ruckman in this years trading,and pay over the odds, that Goodes wont be rucking for us.

        So where do we play him ?
        So what you are saying is that Goodes is not good enough. He won a Brownlow remember and could hardly walk this year. Jeez give him a break. Why are people so negative on RWO?

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        • timthefish
          Regular in the Side
          • Sep 2003
          • 940

          #5
          Re: Re: Goodes

          Originally posted by ROK Lobster
          So what you are saying is that Goodes is not good enough. He won a Brownlow remember and could hardly walk this year. Jeez give him a break. Why are people so negative on RWO?
          that's not what anybody is saying. roos has stated categorically that he will not play goodes in the ruck, rule change or no, and the acquisition of an extra ruckman supports that.

          goodes is a champion player, but will probably never have the same role as he did in his rising star and brownlow years.
          then again, i think it would be worth trying 15-16 players on field so what would i know

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          • Jimmy C
            On the Rookie List
            • Jan 2003
            • 366

            #6
            Originally posted by NMWBloods
            Ruck rover - I think he should be in the centre for bounces.
            That's the spot.

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            • Thunder Shaker
              Aut vincere aut mori
              • Apr 2004
              • 4160

              #7
              We play him in the "unlicensed dog" position - just let him run around the ground getting the footy.

              Ever seen a game of football (any code) where a dog has run onto the ground and started chasing the ball?
              "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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              • midaro
                On the Rookie List
                • Jan 2003
                • 1042

                #8
                Originally posted by Thunder Shaker
                We play him in the "unlicensed dog" position - just let him run around the ground getting the footy.

                Ever seen a game of football (any code) where a dog has run onto the ground and started chasing the ball?
                ..but is there any room for a Labrador in modern football? Didn't we see the result of Goodes playing unaccountable football in our last match?

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                • TheMase
                  Senior Player
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 1207

                  #9
                  Originally posted by midaro
                  ..but is there any room for a Labrador in modern football? Didn't we see the result of Goodes playing unaccountable football in our last match?
                  If Goodes is actually fit ... then let the opposition worry about him.

                  His opponent might get the ball at first, but I guarentee they will have someone on him very quickly if he starts dominating.

                  I don't think Goodes will have to worry about his man too often if we are playing him as our offensive midfielder .... He will do enough damage for the opposition coach to have to make a change ....

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                  • RogueSwan
                    McVeigh for Brownlow
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 4602

                    #10
                    Re: Re: Goodes

                    Originally posted by ROK Lobster
                    Why are people so negative on RWO?
                    That's the spirit all right. It is also delusional.
                    "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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                    • ROK Lobster
                      RWO Life Member
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 8658

                      #11
                      I was only p1ssing the take.

                      For me I like the 'let him do his own thing' option when he is fit. And when he is not leave him in the stands. I don't think it does him much good to play below himself. I'd also like to see him do some rucking around the ground. His instincts are sublime - not only does he seem to often get it to a player but also to a player with a little bit of time.

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                      • CureTheSane
                        Carpe Noctem
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 5032

                        #12
                        He is an enigma.

                        When he is fit, he can be used in most positions, and win most positions, which is pretty unique.

                        I'll never forget Kevin Sheedy saying that he is near impossible to match up on.

                        So why play him in a set position every week?

                        Play him where he is needed and will help the team the most, whether that be in the forward 1/2 the wings, the midfield or the back 1/2

                        As he has shown, if he is free to be a lose man anywhere he is destructive.

                        Having said that, if say, he wanted a set position, I would suggest that his most valuable set position would be in the midfield alongside a ruckman.
                        He is obviously tall, but can play small.
                        If that makes any sense lol
                        The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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                        • timthefish
                          Regular in the Side
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 940

                          #13
                          Originally posted by CureTheSane
                          So why play him in a set position every week?
                          definitely use him in a flexible way, but for his own good, it might be best for him to have a regular position he can get really familiar with to graft at if things aren't going his way on the day. having him as a permanent mr-fixit might put a little too much pressure on him.
                          then again, i think it would be worth trying 15-16 players on field so what would i know

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                          • CureTheSane
                            Carpe Noctem
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 5032

                            #14
                            Yep, you're right.

                            Problem with him is that he is good at ost positions, but not really great at any (including the ruck)
                            I suppose the wing is an option, as a 'rest' position or in case our game plan dictates that he has a set position.

                            Maybe a forward pocket too.
                            May sound silly, but he playes small and tall, and is a good mark and a gook kick for goal.
                            The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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                            • stellation
                              scott names the planets
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 9718

                              #15
                              Originally posted by CureTheSane
                              a gook kick for goal.
                              I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                              We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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