Hypothetical line Up for Wizard Cup

[The Whale]

In light of the excellent list of rookies we have drafted and a long list of injuries, I was wondering what our Wizard Cup line up would look like.

For me it was a bit of a gaze into the future, however, based on the players listed below being unavailable due to injury or rehabilitation, under this list is my line up for the Wizard Cup.

It looks a bit stronger than some of the squads we have put together, thanks to our utilisation of the rookie draft.


Luke Ablett
Leo Barry J Sunquist
Jared Crouch
Nick Davis A Ericksen
Adam Goodes
Ben Mathews
Michael O'Loughlin
Andrew Schauble
Jason Ball
Paul Williams
Jason Saddington
Stewie Maxfield
Barry Hall
N Malceski
J Saddington
M Davis


Paul Bevan Guy Campbell Craig Bolton
183 cm - 78 kg 196 cm 95 kg 190 cm 83 kg


Tadhg Kennelly L Rob-Thomson Mark Powell
190 cm 86 kg 195 cm 89 kg 193 cm 83 kg


Nic Fosdike Jude Bolton Jarrad McVeigh
178 cm 79 kg 182 cm 81 kg 184 cm 75 kg


Amon Buchanan Heath James Sean Dempster
180 cm 84 kg 189 cm - 89 kg 192 cm - 87 kg


Stephen Doyle Ryan O'Keefe Adam Schneider
204 cm 103 kg 190 cm 88 kg 175 cm 80 kg


Darren Jolly Brett Kirk David Spriggs
200cm 100kg 184 cm 81 kg 176cm 77kg

Int From
Ben Fixter Josh Willoughby Jarred Moore Nick Potter
180 cm 79 kg 176 cm - 70 kg 178cm 84kg 181 cm 80 kg

Luke Vogels Heath Grundy Earl Shaw Ed Clarke
195 cm 192cm 92 kg 199 cm 96 kg 179 cm 93 kg

Stefan Garubba Andrew Hayes
180 cm 75 kg 190 cm

[The Whale]

Sorry that came out looking pretty average.

Have a great day

Whale

[ScottH]

James @ CHF would be interesting to see. Could be good for his confidence.

[dread and might]

Originally posted by ScottH
James @ CHF would be interesting to see. Could be good for his confidence.

is he a bit slow for CHF? i don't actually know how quick he is off the mark, which would seem to me to be a prime consideration for a CHF.

However, given that it's the wiz cup, might be worth a try....

I assume i's not televised on free to air......

[LittleSchneider]

i think thats a pretty good side for a wizard cup - could be interesting. we play the bulldogs first up - should be able to beat them right?

[liz]

Originally posted by dread and might
is he a bit slow for CHF? i don't actually know how quick he is off the mark, which would seem to me to be a prime consideration for a CHF.

Speed off the mark is probably more critical for a FF than a CHF.


To be a good CHF I suspect you either need to be a strong bullocking type that can crash packs- ala Jon Brown, Wayne Carey - or exceptionally mobile, particularly laterally so - ala Nick Riewoldt. Or a little bit of both - ala Barry Hall.

I doubt James is either of those, at least compared to others at the elite level.

He has played a lot for the reserves as a key marking forward - probably more in an FF role than a CHF role. He's probably a player who could pinch hit as a key marking forward if we needed one, but I suspect at AFL level he would be more suited to the kind of role that Saddo was playing before he did his knee.

I think it is more likely that he will find his AFL-level niche in the backline, if anywhere.

[DST]

Originally posted by LittleSchneider
i think thats a pretty good side for a wizard cup - could be interesting. we play the bulldogs first up - should be able to beat them right?

We will go into this game as rank outsiders.

This is based on Roos attitude to the Wizard Cup, he has no interest other than getting the side ready for round 1.

The Bulldogs will be atleast 4 weeks ahead of us in their schedule, have everyone training and Eade (wanting to start off well to build confidence) has already stated it will be a full strength line-up for the game.

It is going to be great to get along to the match to watch the kids go around. but would be absolutely shocked if we got within 10 goals on the day.

DST

[LittleSchneider]

sure your right. but in the end i think its more important that the club is ready for round 1 and ready for the riggors of the AFL.

i dont know - we could get within 10, i hope they do! would be great confidence for the younger ones.

[chammond]

Originally posted by liz
Speed off the mark is probably more critical for a FF than a CHF.


To be a good CHF I suspect you either need to be a strong bullocking type that can crash packs- ala Jon Brown, Wayne Carey - or exceptionally mobile, particularly laterally so - ala Nick Riewoldt. Or a little bit of both - ala Barry Hall.

I doubt James is either of those, at least compared to others at the elite level.

He has played a lot for the reserves as a key marking forward - probably more in an FF role than a CHF role. He's probably a player who could pinch hit as a key marking forward if we needed one, but I suspect at AFL level he would be more suited to the kind of role that Saddo was playing before he did his knee.

I think it is more likely that he will find his AFL-level niche in the backline, if anywhere.

There is a fair amount of variability in CHF at AFL level, but I cannot think of one good CHF who wasn't an outstanding overhead mark. I'm not sure that James will ever fit that bill.

[liz]

Originally posted by chammond
There is a fair amount of variability in CHF at AFL level, but I cannot think of one good CHF who wasn't an outstanding overhead mark. I'm not sure that James will ever fit that bill.

Yeah? I would have said that overhead marking was one of James' strengths. He pulled off three absolute beauties in his debut!

[chammond]

Originally posted by liz
Yeah? I would have said that overhead marking was one of James' strengths. He pulled off three absolute beauties in his debut!

Your memory's better than mine . . . that seems like centuries ago!

[chammond]

Actually, while we're on the subject of James, I've been reviewing the games he played last year, and I can't for the life of me remember why he got dropped? He did make the odd clanger, but almost exclusively in the forward line. His defensive play was mostly pretty good, especially considering his inexperience. He got touched up a bit by Neitz, but plenty of good defenders have copped a hiding from him.

Did he get injured or something?

[liz]

Originally posted by chammond
Your memory's better than mine . . . that seems like centuries ago!

It's a game not easily forgotten...

Last game Lockett played at the SCG (other than his comeback season). 1999 r21 against the Crows. We smashed them by over 100 pts. He took one on the defensive goal line and another couple around the ground. One grab, sure hands, Dunkleyesque. Poetry in motion.

He became a bit of a favourite of mine that day.

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by chammond
Actually, while we're on the subject of James, I've been reviewing the games he played last year, and I can't for the life of me remember why he got dropped? He did make the odd clanger, but almost exclusively in the forward line. His defensive play was mostly pretty good, especially considering his inexperience. He got touched up a bit by Neitz, but plenty of good defenders have copped a hiding from him.

Did he get injured or something?

It really seemed to be the Neitz game (which seems bizarre to me). The following week was Essendon and I think he had 8 min.

[liz]

Originally posted by chammond
Actually, while we're on the subject of James, I've been reviewing the games he played last year, and I can't for the life of me remember why he got dropped? He did make the odd clanger, but almost exclusively in the forward line. His defensive play was mostly pretty good, especially considering his inexperience. He got touched up a bit by Neitz, but plenty of good defenders have copped a hiding from him.

Did he get injured or something?

He and Rogers were both listed as having minor injuries the same week and they both got dropped. James' was an ankle I think. But it couldn't have been too bad because I think he played for the reserves the following week.

I agree with NMW - the Neitz game seemed to be the issue. But Dunks had his pants pulled down a few times by Neitz over his career so there must have been slightly more to it than that.

Agree it seems strange.