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  • cruiser
    What the frack!
    • Jul 2004
    • 6114

    #31
    Originally posted by peterh_oz
    - if there's a 72,000 sell-out and 60,000 of them travel up from Vic & Wagga then Sydney is NOT ready.
    Bull****. Where do you get ur figures from? That is such crap. The Sydney % is much much higher.
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    • Bart
      CHHHOMMMMMPPP!!!!
      • Feb 2003
      • 1360

      #32
      Originally posted by cruiser
      I am very much in favour of more Swans games at Telstra Stadium (I love the ground) but I'm not so keen on a second Sydney team yet.
      Agree with you on the ground. Far superior night out than Jurassic Park

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      • Bart
        CHHHOMMMMMPPP!!!!
        • Feb 2003
        • 1360

        #33
        Originally posted by The Undertaker
        I feel the SCG should and always be our main home ground.
        Even though it is the worst home ground in Australia ? Went to the 1 day final and it reminded me how decrepit the facilities are. Quaint and twee, maybe. 21st century it ain't. Telstra Dome or even the Gabba are class venues.

        No issue with the location. Level the beast I say, members and all.

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        • robbieando
          The King
          • Jan 2003
          • 2750

          #34
          Originally posted by cruiser
          Bull****. Where do you get ur figures from? That is such crap. The Sydney % is much much higher.
          He is talking about the possible Essendon v Collingwood match at TS. If 60000 travelled from Victoria for the match, how successful is the game from a development point of view???
          Once was, now elsewhere

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          • Beaussie
            On the Rookie List
            • Mar 2003
            • 328

            #35
            Originally posted by robbieando
            He is talking about the possible Essendon v Collingwood match at TS. If 60000 travelled from Victoria for the match, how successful is the game from a development point of view???
            As if 60,000 Victorians are going to travel to Sydney for a footy game.

            The crowd if it happens, will be predominately Sydneysiders in attendance.

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            • swansrock4eva
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              • Jan 2003
              • 1352

              #36
              Originally posted by Beaussie
              As if 60,000 Victorians are going to travel to Sydney for a footy game.

              The crowd if it happens, will be predominately Sydneysiders in attendance.
              Don't be so sure - for the Swans Pies game a couple of season back, they had over 10,000 fans come up for collingwood alone, and on relatively short notice due to the surprising form of both teams, and with enough notice (i.e. from October), many more from both sides could plan for a big weekend in Sydney for what is traditionally a huge game for both clubs, regardless of their ladder positions.

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              • Beaussie
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                • Mar 2003
                • 328

                #37
                Originally posted by swansrock4eva
                Don't be so sure - for the Swans Pies game a couple of season back, they had over 10,000 fans come up for collingwood alone, and on relatively short notice due to the surprising form of both teams, and with enough notice (i.e. from October), many more from both sides could plan for a big weekend in Sydney for what is traditionally a huge game for both clubs, regardless of their ladder positions.
                I heard that at the time but still have serious doubts that it was anywhere near that figure. How exactly did they come up with that figure of 10,000 anyway?

                Claims that there will be as many as 60,000 Victorians in Sydney for a footy game are just ridiculous.

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                • robbieando
                  The King
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 2750

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Beaussie
                  Claims that there will be as many as 60,000 Victorians in Sydney for a footy game are just ridiculous.
                  Of course it is, but thats not the issue. Its a question that "IF" such a game got 72,000 and of which 60,000 travelled up from Melbourne, would that mean the game development wise in NSW a success. It doesn't mean it will happen, just posing the question.
                  Once was, now elsewhere

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                  • footyhead
                    Banned indefinitely by Moderators for posting totally inappropriate material
                    • May 2003
                    • 1367

                    #39
                    [QUOTE]Originally posted by Big Al
                    [i]I have lived in Sydney all my life and while the city has embraced the swans they still not have embraced AFL. While a Essendon-Collingwood match would indeed draw a big crowd it is because its a one off event. Week in week out footy will not be supprted just yet. The TV ratings for non Swans games in sydney are abysmal. While I applaud the efforts of the AFL to open up western sydney to AFL we are many years away from a second team. Maybe when the swans win their third flag in a row the city may be ready.
                    All this is true, but only because very few followers of Aussie Rules Football actually follow AFL (myself and a few others on these kinds of boards excluded), most people follow the fotunes of their club.
                    That is why a game of AFL between two foriegn teams in Sydney will always be a failer.
                    Hell it is hard enough to get people to the footy in Melbourne if a lowley out of state team are playing.
                    Western Sydney need a team precisley for the reason that the crowd for an Essendon / Collingwood game at TS, would not be a good indication of the rediness for or the potential success of a second Sydney team.

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                    • The Undertaker
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                      • Oct 2004
                      • 517

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Bart
                      Even though it is the worst home ground in Australia ? Went to the 1 day final and it reminded me how decrepit the facilities are. Quaint and twee, maybe. 21st century it ain't. Telstra Dome or even the Gabba are class venues.

                      No issue with the location. Level the beast I say, members and all.
                      I agree that the SCG does need a lot of work Bart.

                      ...and from an AFL view,it is the worst home ground in Australia.

                      Look,Telstra Stadium is much more modern with better facilities etc but it is just one huge concrete jungle with no atmosphere.It is a pain in the arse to get to and get out of it.

                      I don't enjoy going out there for either league or AFL but if i had to go there more often then so be it even though i wouldn't like it.

                      The SCG to me,is in a great location,easier to get to,better atmosphere and a lot more comfy than Telstra.
                      Well done Craig Bolton for getting the co- captaincy in 2008.

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                      • Beaussie
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                        • Mar 2003
                        • 328

                        #41
                        Originally posted by robbieando
                        Of course it is, but thats not the issue. Its a question that "IF" such a game got 72,000 and of which 60,000 travelled up from Melbourne, would that mean the game development wise in NSW a success. It doesn't mean it will happen, just posing the question.
                        If it is agreed that such a claim is ridiculous, then why bring it up in the first place to demonstrate the support for AFL in general in Sydney?

                        If the Collingwood v Essendon game is to go ahead in Sydney, I've no doubt a huge crowd will attend and that crowd as I said earlier will be predominately Sydneysiders. Whatever the crowd however, I don't think that should be considered a test of whether Sydney is ready for a second team. Of course a second Sydney team will work in time. We gotta start somewhere and sometime soon to ensure there is an AFL game in Sydney each week of the H&A season.

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                        • Mike_B
                          Peyow Peyow
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 6267

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Beaussie
                          We gotta start somewhere and sometime soon to ensure there is an AFL game in Sydney each week of the H&A season.
                          I'm all for the Swans getting 22 home games a year (with profuse apologies to our non-Sydney-based supporters)!

                          I'm on the Chandwagon!!!

                          If you cannot compete for the premiership, it's better to be young and exciting than middle-aged and dowdy.

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                          • peterh_oz
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                            • Jan 2003
                            • 302

                            #43
                            Originally posted by cruiser
                            Bull****. Where do you get ur figures from? That is such crap. The Sydney % is much much higher.
                            Cruiser - put your glasses on and re-read what I wrote. Note the first 2 letters in your quote. I'll help you:

                            There was an i followed closely by an f. Now, when I went to school that spelt IF. Now, for those not sure, the definition of IF includes (source):

                            1. In the event that: If I were to go, I would be late.
                            2. Granting that: If that is true, what should we do?
                            3. On the condition that: She will play the piano only if she is paid.

                            When you re-read my message, you will find that I said that a 72,000 crowd can be misleading. My quote was:

                            An analysis must be done to see where the crowd comes from - if there's a 72,000 sell-out and 60,000 of them travel up from Vic & Wagga then Sydney is NOT ready.
                            Beaussie - you fell into the same trap. Robbie - I can tell you're an umpire - you saw what others didn't. They complain & make lots of noise, yet they are wrong. Are they journalists? Or ex-players who now commentate? Sounds like it!
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                            • peterh_oz
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                              • Jan 2003
                              • 302

                              #44
                              Originally posted by The Undertaker
                              The SCG to me,is in a great location,easier to get to,better atmosphere and a lot more comfy than Telstra.
                              So where do you travel from?

                              The Undertaker
                              Swans Phenom.

                              Registered: Oct 2004
                              Location: Squared Circle
                              Sounds like the city circle to me - do you live in the CBD? Of course the SCG is close and easy to get to. Try coming in from the west, where 75% of Sydney lives. Hmmm ...

                              Train? - every weekend there is trackwork on at least 1 line. Then the bus from Central. 3 people on the bus @ $4.40 each - its cheaper to catch a taxi!
                              OK so public transport to the SCG sucks - ok drive then: Parramatta Road? Its pretty slow. Then again, its a freeway when compared to Cleveland Street. It can take an hour to go 8 blocks on Cleveand Street. And from the west, there's not many options! The M5? OK its not bad - but the last 1km can still take longer than the first 40!

                              Lets compare to Homebush ...
                              Geographically its in the middle - much easier for everyone (on average). Not as easy for a Paddington or Randwick resident but MUCH easier for Hornsby, Liverpool, Sutherland, Penrith, Campbelltown, Blue Mtns, Hills District, Southern Highlands. Even Central Coast - one change of trains at Strathfield! No buses, same ticket (so its cheaper).

                              You may not live in the city - I don't know. But just because the SCG is better for YOU, open your eyes, open a map, and look where most people live in this city. Especially those who can't use their company car to drive for free! And also remember where the future of our game is - its not the kids in Randwick, its the kids in Greater Sydney!
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                              • Mark
                                Suspended by the MRP
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 578

                                #45
                                Originally posted by peterh_oz
                                So where do you travel from?



                                Sounds like the city circle to me - do you live in the CBD? Of course the SCG is close and easy to get to. Try coming in from the west, where 75% of Sydney lives. Hmmm ...

                                You may not live in the city - I don't know. But just because the SCG is better for YOU, open your eyes, open a map, and look where most people live in this city. Especially those who can't use their company car to drive for free! And also remember where the future of our game is - its not the kids in Randwick, its the kids in Greater Sydney!
                                The above is hypocrisy in the extreme

                                Numerous surveys have shown that a very very significant majority of Swans members (ie those who actually pay year in year out) live in the eastern suburbs or lower north shore. Therefore, there is no relevance whatsoever to where 75% of sydneys overall population lives.

                                I believe there is a rather large population centre in China, should we schedule some games in beijing ?

                                Maybe you should open your eyes rather than imploring others to do so.

                                As for the company car jibe, quite pathetic really, having such a large chip on your shoulder will always distorts your view of anything !

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