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  • liz
    Veteran
    Site Admin
    • Jan 2003
    • 16778

    Squad for Friday night



    (with article)

    Jason Ball, Leo Barry, Paul Bevan, Craig Bolton, Jude Bolton, Amon Buchanan, Guy Campbell, Sean Dempster, Stephen Doyle, Ben Fixter, Nic Fosdike, Barry Hall, Heath James, Darren Jolly, Tadhg Kennelly, Brett Kirk, Ben Mathews, Stuart Maxfield, Jarrad McVeigh, Matthew Nicks, Ryan O?Keefe, Mark Powell, Lewis Roberts-Thomson, Tim Schmidt, Adam Schneider, David Spriggs, Paul Williams, Josh Willoughby.

    The inclusion of Campbell but not Vogels suggests that Campbell is heading the race to be the 'designated rookie' who can play senior football regardless of injuries.

    Makes sense from the point of view of
    - where you'd expect each of the rookies to be in their development and
    - that the taller options in the back half are less established than those in the forward line

    even if his early season form hasn't stood out as much as Vogels.

    Also interesting that Moore has been excluded, which suggests they are in no hurry to play him in the senior team despite what he has shown thus far.
  • dread and might
    Back, strapped and intact
    • Apr 2004
    • 949

    #2
    Re: Squad for Friday night

    Originally posted by liz
    [BAlso interesting that Moore has been excluded, which suggests they are in no hurry to play him in the senior team despite what he has shown thus far. [/B]
    The "fitness" base maybe?
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    • Nico
      Veterans List
      • Jan 2003
      • 11339

      #3
      Still no Nick Davis, mmmm!!!!
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      • swansrule100
        The quarterback
        • May 2004
        • 4538

        #4
        oh well he will hopefully play round 1
        Theres not much left to say

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        • DST
          The voice of reason!
          • Jan 2003
          • 2705

          #5
          Originally posted by Nico
          Still no Nick Davis, mmmm!!!!
          Didn't Roos say somewhere that Davis was due to return next week in Newcastle?

          That would give him next week and a run in Canberra the week before the start of the season.

          Robert Shaw on SEN1116 said this week that 2 wizzer or practice games were all that was needed for a player to be ready physically to play round 1.

          DST
          "Looking forward to a rebuilt, new, fast and exciting Swans model in 2010"

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          • DST
            The voice of reason!
            • Jan 2003
            • 2705

            #6
            Re: Squad for Friday night

            Originally posted by liz
            [B
            Jason Ball, Leo Barry, Paul Bevan, Craig Bolton, Jude Bolton, Amon Buchanan, Guy Campbell, Sean Dempster, Stephen Doyle, Ben Fixter, Nic Fosdike, Barry Hall, Heath James, Darren Jolly, Tadhg Kennelly, Brett Kirk, Ben Mathews, Stuart Maxfield, Jarrad McVeigh, Matthew Nicks, Ryan O?Keefe, Mark Powell, Lewis Roberts-Thomson, Tim Schmidt, Adam Schneider, David Spriggs, Paul Williams, Josh Willoughby.[/B]
            That leaves the following senior group that has not played yet:

            * Micheal O'Loughlin
            * Adam Goodes
            * Nick Davis
            * Jason Saddington
            * Andrew Schuable
            * Jarred Crouch
            * Luke Ablett

            Of those O'Loughlin, Goodes & Davis all seem to be on track for round 1.

            Therefore likely round 1 line-up is looking like this:

            FB: P Bevan, H James, C Bolton
            HB: L Barry, L Roberts-Thompson, A Goodes
            C: T Kennelly, B Matthews, S Maxfield
            HF: R Okeefe, B Hall, P Williams
            FF: A Schiender, D Jolly, M O'Loughlin

            R: S Doyle, B Kirk, J Bolton

            IC: J Ball, D Spriggs, J McVeigh, N Davis

            Em: Take your pick of the rest

            DST
            "Looking forward to a rebuilt, new, fast and exciting Swans model in 2010"

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            • sharp9
              Senior Player
              • Jan 2003
              • 2508

              #7
              Positions, schmositions....but I reckon Buchanan might get a game ahead of Spriggs, don't you? Actually there's no "reckon" about it.

              Big call on three ruckman. I'd say Nicks will play ahead of Jolly
              "I'll acknowledge there are more talented teams in the competition but I won't acknowledge that there is a better team in the competition" Paul Roos March 2005

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              • Ryan Bomford
                On the Rookie List
                • Sep 2003
                • 652

                #8
                Re: Squad for Friday night

                [i]

                The inclusion of Campbell but not Vogels suggests that Campbell is heading the race to be the 'designated rookie' who can play senior football regardless of injuries.

                Makes sense from the point of view of
                - where you'd expect each of the rookies to be in their development and
                - that the taller options in the back half are less established than those in the forward line

                even if his early season form hasn't stood out as much as Vogels.
                [/B]
                I'm not surprised to see Campbell in there. In comparison with the others, he looks much more physically ready for senior football. I was also very impressed with his kicking at the Brisbane match. He's a very long kick.

                We still need to find another big backman and Campbell may be just the guy who can fill a role.

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                • chammond
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 1368

                  #9
                  Originally posted by sharp9
                  Positions, schmositions....but I reckon Buchanan might get a game ahead of Spriggs, don't you? Actually there's no "reckon" about it.

                  Big call on three ruckman. I'd say Nicks will play ahead of Jolly
                  You "reckon"?

                  Spriggs will be in for round 1, but Buchanan will be relying on injuries to make the first 22.

                  And I'd be willing to bet my hard-earned on Jolly playing round 1, barring injury. It certainly won't come down to a choice between Jolly and Nicks.

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                  • Ryan Bomford
                    On the Rookie List
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 652

                    #10
                    They didn't recruit Spriggs and Jolly not to play them, at least in the early rounds. Stevie will also be in the first 22.

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                    • Thunder Shaker
                      Aut vincere aut mori
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 4203

                      #11
                      Re: Re: Squad for Friday night

                      Originally posted by Ryan Bomford
                      I'm not surprised to see Campbell in there. In comparison with the others, he looks much more physically ready for senior football. I was also very impressed with his kicking at the Brisbane match. He's a very long kick.
                      Oh YES! We need more players that can deliver long kicks into the forward line for Bazza to mark. IIRC, last year the Swans were ranked last in long kicks. If we can get the players we need to develop a long kicking game that gives plenty of chances for Bazza and his minions to mark, we will finally be a good chance for a flag.

                      Let's get back to basics here. Champion teams win premierships by outscoring the opposition. The more times we enter F50 the higher the score we kick. We have done well to make the most of our opportunities, but with a long kicking game we can get more opportunities.
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                      • smasher
                        On the Rookie List
                        • Jan 2005
                        • 627

                        #12
                        I personally wouldn't go with Spriggs on what I've seen and heard.He starts in a blaze of glory but his disposal lets him down.I would rather see Buchanan in the starting 18 and the spiderman on the bench.IMO Spriggs hasn't shown enough yet but he is quick and there is room for improvement.

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                        • Jeffers1984
                          Veterans List
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 4564

                          #13
                          Originally posted by smasher
                          IMO Spriggs hasn't shown enough yet but he is quick and there is room for improvement.
                          Spriggs looked really slow in alot of occassions against the brions.

                          Bias aside, bucky has done enough in the pre season to be ahead of spriggs. He has more of that X-Factor (ala pull something out of his arse) that we need if the game gets close.
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                          • liz
                            Veteran
                            Site Admin
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 16778

                            #14
                            I don't think Spriggs and Buchanan are substitutes for each other. One is fit, speedy outside player who can run all day (with or without skill limitations - I don't want to judge until we've had a decent chance to observe him).

                            The other is a moderately paced, not exceptionally fit but very clever and creative player. He won't contribute for 100mins but what he does do will probably be valuable.

                            Since they have such different attributes, it will be team balance that dictates which gets a guernsey if it comes down to a choice between the two.

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                            • motorace_182
                              On the Rookie List
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 961

                              #15
                              Re: Re: Re: Squad for Friday night

                              Originally posted by Thunder Shaker
                              Champion teams win premierships by outscoring the opposition. The more times we enter F50 the higher the score we kick. We have done well to make the most of our opportunities, but with a long kicking game we can get more opportunities.
                              Teams win Premierships by kicking accurately. Although we may not get it in there 100 times a Qtr like you may want, generally it is quality ball when it does go in. This allows for us to win despite have far less scoring shots than the opposition as the goal kickers are in a better position...
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