Time on ground

[Charlie]

I've been saying for probably a year that McVeigh needs game time. He won't learn the art of being a number one midfielder sitting on the interchange bench.

As for Spriggs - what is the point of recruiting a player with mediocre skills and a heart like Phar Lap, if you're going to play him as an impact player? Put him on the field throughout the match, use his spot on the bench to cycle less fit players on and off, and all the midfielders will be better for it in the last quarter.

[Nico]

Originally posted by Charlie
I've been saying for probably a year that McVeigh needs game time. He won't learn the art of being a number one midfielder sitting on the interchange bench.

As for Spriggs - what is the point of recruiting a player with mediocre skills and a heart like Phar Lap, if you're going to play him as an impact player? Put him on the field throughout the match, use his spot on the bench to cycle less fit players on and off, and all the midfielders will be better for it in the last quarter.

I love the term impact player, Charlie. When Spriggs came on he had an impact. When he went off the reverse impact happened. Sheesh what ever happened to a game impact and the possibility of 3 Brownlow votes. Impact plays only work if they kick a goal to in the last seconds to win. Very hard to judge so called and impact/pich hitters value. All it is fresh legs

Never been able to come to terms with this. Before the interchange there was no such thing. In my time the only genuine impact player was Ted Hopkins in the 1970 GF for Carlton and he was on for the full second half.

[Jeffers1984]

Spriggs is a ball magnet and seems to actually get the ball out of the congestion.
16 possies in the amount of time he had is amazing.

[Charlie]

Originally posted by Nico
I love the term impact player, Charlie. When Spriggs came on he had an impact. When he went off the reverse impact happened. Sheesh what ever happened to a game impact and the possibility of 3 Brownlow votes. Impact plays only work if they kick a goal to in the last seconds to win. Very hard to judge so called and impact/pich hitters value. All it is fresh legs

Never been able to come to terms with this. Before the interchange there was no such thing. In my time the only genuine impact player was Ted Hopkins in the 1970 GF for Carlton and he was on for the full second half.

Sure. But it's a waste to put Spriggs in that role. He's one of the few midfielders in the team that actually could run out four quarters. Instead he's spending close to an hour sitting, taking up space on the interchange bench.

Perhaps 'short-burst' midfielder would be a more descriptive term than 'impact' midfielder.

[Foreign Legion]

Yes the "Fittest player at the cluB" should be on for most of the game..... I don't remember "The Diesel" being interchanged - the runner would have copped a mouthful.

It is crap in my opinion - good players play all the game.

[cruiser]

Originally posted by satchmopugdog
...No Tassie Tigers were caught but my cat often deposits half a bandicoot on the front door mat.

And maybe no bandicoots one day if people keep letting their cats out to kill native wildlife.

[Slick Swans]

Is it just me or is it insanity, that it seemed all preseason the swans were talking up how spigs had broken every running record of all time and and the fastest 3km run anyones ever seen, and we put him on in 5 mnute bursts? Does that seem odd to anyone else?

[Foreign Legion]

Originally posted by Slick Swans
Is it just me or is it insanity, that it seemed all preseason the swans were talking up how spigs had broken every running record of all time and and the fastest 3km run anyones ever seen, and we put him on in 5 mnute bursts? Does that seem odd to anyone else?

Absolutely right Slick Swans - doesn't make any sense to me.

So, we would have taken the "Chimp" off - what a bloody joke.

[REDV6]

When we had that spark in the 3rd quarter it coincided with Goodes and Sproggs coming on. The reversal in the tide coincided with Goodes and spriggs going off. Nick Davis was barelt sited and it is rediculous as he is as fit as he has ever been. Spent most of his time down back when he was on.

Maybe we need an assistant to roos to do the attacking site of the game

[Snowy]

Originally posted by Charlie
Sure. But it's a waste to put Spriggs in that role. He's one of the few midfielders in the team that actually could run out four quarters. Instead he's spending close to an hour sitting, taking up space on the interchange bench.

Perhaps 'short-burst' midfielder would be a more descriptive term than 'impact' midfielder.

Exactly my point as earlier stated, the blokes with the best fitness should be used to run hard all night. An impact player is someone with brilliant skills who can snag you the odd goal. While Dempster played well, I also think one of the reasons he got full game time is that the way he played didn't empty his tank. It's only natural that midfielders will be rotated regardless of how well they're playing.

[ROK Lobster]

Originally posted by Nico
Could it be that Roos is outcoaching himself.

Yep, the team is over coached. I spent all last week in a house with pay tv. I saw a snippet of Rodney Eade talking in some promo on the footy channel where ha said something about things being out of his control come game day. That was not how he coached at Sydney, and Roos is making the same mistakes. I reckon part of it is an arrogance thing - he wants to be in control. Part is a self protection (perhaps promotion) thing. Talk down the team, over and over, 'til everyone starts saying the Swans have no talent. Then any sucess is the coach's, and failure belongs to the players. I'm sure part of it is inexperience, knowing when to let go, and having the confidence to let the players make their own mistakes. Part of it is his calm, detached demeanour. Maybe it is time to lose his cool, get excited, make some rash, instinctive decissions in the box that he can scream down the phone, rather than with his protractor and compass set on his clip board high in the coaches box. Central to the gameplan ATM is the coach. The coach should not be the most important member of the team. Like a good umpire, a good coach should almost go unnoticed until he steps up to get the trophy.

[Schneiderman]

Originally posted by ROK Lobster
Yep, the team is over coached ... Maybe it is time to lose his cool, get excited, make some rash, instinctive decissions in the box that he can scream down the phone, rather than with his protractor and compass set on his clip board high in the coaches box.

So is the team over-coached or under-coached??

Central to the gameplan ATM is the coach. The coach should not be the most important member of the team. Like a good umpire, a good coach should almost go unnoticed until he steps up to get the trophy.

So is the coach central to the gameplan or are they not the most important member??

Cant tell whether you are being sarcastic or have gotten confused. I know I am.

[ROK Lobster]

Originally posted by Schneiderman
Cant tell whether you are being sarcastic or have gotten confused. I know I am.

I don't think 'gotten' is a word?

[LittleSchneider]

Originally posted by ROK Lobster
Yep, the team is over coached. I spent all last week in a house with pay tv. I saw a snippet of Rodney Eade talking in some promo on the footy channel where ha said something about things being out of his control come game day. That was not how he coached at Sydney, and Roos is making the same mistakes. I reckon part of it is an arrogance thing - he wants to be in control. Part is a self protection (perhaps promotion) thing. Talk down the team, over and over, 'til everyone starts saying the Swans have no talent. Then any sucess is the coach's, and failure belongs to the players. I'm sure part of it is inexperience, knowing when to let go, and having the confidence to let the players make their own mistakes. Part of it is his calm, detached demeanour. Maybe it is time to lose his cool, get excited, make some rash, instinctive decissions in the box that he can scream down the phone, rather than with his protractor and compass set on his clip board high in the coaches box. Central to the gameplan ATM is the coach. The coach should not be the most important member of the team. Like a good umpire, a good coach should almost go unnoticed until he steps up to get the trophy.

Actually I really agree with ROK Lobster here - quite an astute assessment.

[Schneiderman]

Originally posted by ROK Lobster
I don't think 'gotten' is a word?

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=gotten

Does that confirm the confusion?