I was just thinking how similar Eade and Roos's time has been @ the Swans

[footyhead]

Both had stellar first years with disappointing years thereafter.

Both employ the flood to the point of boredom.

Both make multiple changes of the bench at a lightening pace- which seems to confuse the players.

Both blame their players lack of skill when things don't go right.

Both have a game plan that is a little too complex for it's own good.

Neither know how to developed players from the draft.
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At least Eade was original.

What has Roos done except to receive the extream good will of the team in his first 2 years ?

The guy doesn't know how to coach - Lets get rid of him before we waste another 3 years of dissapointment watching boring footy, while all the while finding out that what I am saying is the undisputable Truth.

[Nico]

Agree on the similarity to Eade. It is stricking.

Not yet to the sack Roos point but surely with the situation we are in, we will see what he is made of.

[Dooloo]

One month ago Footyhead I would have disagreed with you, and stood firmly beside my beloved Swans, but now I have to agree with you. It appeards that Roos has run out of good ideas, so he recycles some of Eades past jokes. and I for one am finding this style of football monotonous and typically pradictable and boring.

[Plugger46]

Spot on Footyhead. At the moment Roos has got no idea.

[motorace_182]

Sadly, true. What is wrong with going back to the methods of 2003?

[footyhead]

I think that in 2003 there was no method. Which worked. No pressure!!!

[sharpie]

Originally posted by motorace_182
Sadly, true. What is wrong with going back to the methods of 2003?

But that is the problem, he is trying to do the same thing, but we dont have Leo Barry's run from half back because we dont have Schauble, we dont have Goodes in the ruck, we dont have Cressa in the midfield, and the opposition coaches have now had plenty of time to work out a strategy to stop us.

Instead of looking to the past for problems, we should be asking, why hasnt Roos evolved the gameplan to adapt?

[footyhead]

Originally posted by sharpie

Instead of looking to the past for problems, we should be asking, why hasnt Roos evolved the gameplan to adapt?

Right, why hasn't he ?? Maybe he is not capable of doing so.
I think Roos is pretty good at getting on well with the players and making everybody like him, but he actually may not know much about how a footy team works.
It's starting to appear that way any way.

[Schneiderman]

Originally posted by footyhead
It's starting to appear that way any way.

Not to me it aint. The players are going through a form and confidence slump, a lot of which is compounded by the surprising success of the past two years. They are still in the same position as they were in 2003, so what's all the panic about?

As for similarities between coaches, well you could find plenty between any two coaches you pick if you wanted to. How about the differences:

After Lockett retired, Eade had no forward options, and had planned poorly (if at all) for when the inevitable finally occurred. Certainly the current forward line is all Roos doing.

Adam Goodes would not have won a Brownlow. He still may have eventually, but it may just as well have been with another team after Eade had traded him.

IMO only Roos has allowed the "unearthing" of the talents of Kirk, Bevan, Schneider, Monty and Dempster. Eade was criticised for his lack of development of youth, and I certainly saw little evidence of it. He was clearly a fan of recycling established players, hence the recruitment of Hall, Schwass, O'Brien, Daffy, Williams, Schauble, etc. Whilst the nett result is not necessarily a bad one, the criticism labelled at Roos for not getting enough yound blood into the team is more fairly applicable to Eade in the previous 6yrs at the helm.

We never had a 2003 before 2003. Only Roos was and is capable of that, Eade was not. People forget 1996 was the pinnacle of Swans talent and ability. The fact that Eade LOST the GF is more important to note than that we got there in the first place. Comparably we were wholly and squarely written off the entire year in 2003.

Lets give Roos the remaining 3.5 years as we did to Eade before we try to make comparisons.

[footyhead]

What and then employ another ex player we all "like" to wast another 6 years of our time.

Sydney should get a good coach. ASAP.

[Nico]

What Roos is doing with McVeigh is exactly what Eade did with Bolton and Fosdike. Eade played those as part timers off the bench with little ground time for 2 years. Roos came along and promoted both to full time.

Now Roos has McVeigh as best described as a casual employee.
Spriggs might be more experienced but he too has been drafted as a casual.

We all agree that both Bevan and Schneider came out of the blue, and they seem to have stagnated in their development.

So where is the "youth development" results after 2.5 years. You couldn't say LRT was a success. Buchanan? Ablett's been around a while now is only now getting time as a stopper, not a creater.
As I said in another thread, hopefully by stacking the rookie list with blokes who appear to be able to play is the basis of the rebuilding. But boy a clean out at seasons end may not come quick enough.

On radio they were talking about Brisbane and how they won 3 flags but now are suffering for not at least bloody a couple of players each year to keep the "kettle boiling" on development. Matthews always replaced an injured player with an experienced player. As they said he got away with it with remarkable success but appears to have come to a sudden halt.

[ScottH]

WTF?????

Why are we all agreeing with Footyhead???


Oh yeah, thats coz he is right!!!

The other coaches have worked out ways to beat our game plan, And we some alternates, some surprises, some ingenuity!!!

[footyhead]

Hey, Why don't you get over the personal stuff and consider the problems at hand rather than the snide b'****e that a few hee go on for.

[ScottH]

Originally posted by footyhead
Hey, Why don't you get over the personal stuff and consider the problems at hand rather than the snide b'****e that a few hee go on for.

No snide stuff, buddy, just surprised everyone is agreeing with you for a change instead of bagging you.

[REDV6]

Roos coaches like a defender. He coaches like he doesn't want to loose. I am not sure he knows what to do with our quality attackers.
In saying that he has been unable to organise the defense as a coach the way he did as a player