Buchanan

[Rob-bloods]

Originally posted by liz
At the end of last year Bevan finished top 5 in the RS Award.

Yes, he still has a lot to learn but many players find their second and third years tougher than their first before settling down to become decent players. To suggest he is wasting space on the list is a premature comment, surely.

What will we do when Moore, Schmidt, Dempster, Malceski, Grundy, Willoughby et al all fail to become superstars of the competition within their second year of senior football? Will we call for them to be dumped too?

Whether he should currently be in the team is another question altogether, though as per a post on another thread, I'm not sure there is anyone else in the wings who would necessarily do better at the moment.

I agree with the, as usual, eminently thoughtful Liz.

I for one like players that have a red hot go, Bevo only a second year player who gets stuck in week in week out, a bit early for the jury to hang him surely. The third and fourth year players (in 1st grade) who still do not have the goods, and don't seem to give 100%...yep ditch them.

There is a lot of talk that we lack midfield "class" and we do, but do you notice that most teams in the league have a few tall and/or large bodied defenders each coming through except....you guessed it, US!

How honestly can you beat an in form team with LRT and Schauble in the defence?

And what about crumbers? When the ball comes to ground when BBBH doesn't mark who do you see in screen shot? Three defenders normally, so where are our small forwards? If they are really just trudging up the field from a defensive position then I will 'join in the chorus alright'...... the "SACK ROOS'y" one.....!

[Scottee]

I find it strange that no-one has mentioned the name "Schneider" in this thread.

[NMWBloods]

Schneider has good basic football skills, but seems to lack something - application, determination, a want for the ball, or whatever. He is struggling big time. I think it's time to put him in the forward pocket and leave them there for the entire game just to settle him.

Buchanan is a strange one. He's actually one ofthe few guys in our team who is capable of one grab in a pack situation and find space and find an open man in good position when the game is in close. His longer distance disposal hurts him badly though. Like so many of our players, he should mainly stick to handballing (why can't most of our team kick?).

Bevan is having a shocker of a year. Continues to dive on the ball and lose his feet. Not sure if there is much point in dumping him yet - he needs more experience so we may as well as run him out for the year unless he gets significantly worse.

As for "Moore, Schmidt, Dempster, Malceski, Grundy, Willoughby et al" maybe we could actually see them play at some point and see if they're going to make it rather than see the same old names in the side week after week.

We desperately need to try out some more of the youngsters. So many other sides give their young guys a go, yet we seem to leave them in the crappy reserves, where they learn nothing, for years on end.

[Mike_B]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
We desperately need to try out some more of the youngsters. So many other sides give their young guys a go, yet we seem to leave them in the crappy reserves, where they learn nothing, for years on end.

And its every other club except us that can afford to leave players in the reserves for longer to aid their development through playing in strong 2nd-tier comps (maybe with the exception of Brisbane, but the QAFL is still a long way ahead of the ACTAFL).

[JF_Bay22_SCG]

Originally posted by Whitefox
We're not talking about becoming superstars - we're talking about having the absolute basic football skills and being able to make a half decent decision.

If that were the case, then basucally the whole team would be getting dropped.

I mean what team continues to handball willynilly in the backline in the wet.

I have always thought Monty had suspect skills. Sadly I have been proven correct.

I'd love to see either Moore, Grundy, Malceski Schmidt or Willoughby get a game. But where do these guys play their best footy? Can they simply replace players like Bevan Buchanan Schneider or Matthews? I doubt it.

JF
PS:- One thing I do hate to death. When it has rained constantly during the footy interstate, meaning every flag i have brought over is saturated. And then the next day there is not a cloud in the sky.

[EMJ]

Schneider seems to be in a "mood" When he was benched last night the phone was handed to him - and he certainly had the grumps.
He avoids tackles and never seems to go in hard.
He needs to go down a grade and a new debutante brought in.
Dempster is doing okay - only need other players to catch the ball from his deliveries.

[ROK Lobster]

Originally posted by janpa
only need other players to catch the ball from his deliveries.

Wicket-keeper?

[Snowy]

the fact that Bevan was in the starting 18 last night suggests that Roos overrates him.

[Bleed Red Blood]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
We desperately need to try out some more of the youngsters. So many other sides give their young guys a go, yet we seem to leave them in the crappy reserves, where they learn nothing, for years on end.

Yep. I can think of only four players who have debuted for us in the last two years. (Thewlis, Bevan, Dempster and McVeigh)

That says a lot, Thewlis isn't with us any more. McVeigh hardly get's any game time and Bevan can't kick, can't make decisions quickly and trys to do to much.

Bring in the Kesk!!

[stellation]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
Schneider has good basic football skills, but seems to lack something - application, determination, a want for the ball, or whatever. He is struggling big time. I think it's time to put him in the forward pocket and leave them there for the entire game just to settle him.

I totally agree with the idea of throwing Schneider into a Forward Pocket and leaving him there. He has shown he can create in that situation and he has more experience under his wings now. I'd like to see a FF line next week of
Schneider Saddington O'Loughlin
and if Roos wants to call Mickey the FF then I don't mind and he can switch with Jason, as long as both Mickey and Jason play from the square... I don't want to bring Saddo straight back in and make him a FF because he did okay for one game last year, I just want someone running out of the goal square who will either take a mark or spill it forward (this is assuming Hall plays CHF).

[Nico]

I too agree with throwing Schneider in to the forward pocket, but not with the Sydney Swans.

In answer to NMW on what is wrong with him. It is very simple.

He a squib through and through.

In his first season 2003 he showed it a couple of times, particularly at Optus Oval one day where he did the cat jump to get out of the way of a confrontation. He did it again at the G last year and now gets around that by just not going for the contest.

Hey, his body is probably not the type to cut it at the top level, that is no shame, but if you are out there you must be prepared to put the body on the line, which he is not.

[NMWBloods]

He is a lair and does shirk contests. Roos needs to have a word to him and tell him what needs to be done.

[Nico]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
He is a lair and does shirk contests. Roos needs to have a word to him and tell him what needs to be done.

You are being very kind to him NMW.

He gives us absolutely nothing.

If you take just Schneider, Bevan and Buchanan out of our side and replace them with 3 players with some talent, and who can keep their feet, we would be a goals better side.

[Mike_B]

Originally posted by Nico
If you take just Schneider, Bevan and Buchanan out of our side and replace them with 3 players with some talent, and who can keep their feet, we would be a goals better side.

So we will kick 9 goals instead of 8???

[Nico]

Originally posted by Mike_B
So we will kick 9 goals instead of 8???

It would be a start.

The 3 men aforementioned rarely kick goals so one each by the inductees means 11.