Jolly appeals on four grounds

[ugg]

http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=199102

We're leaving nothing to chance, appealing on 4 grounds.

I like this one the best:

that the decision was so unreasonable that no Tribunal acting reasonably could have come to that decision

or in McEnroe lingo "you cannot be serious!"

[ScottH]

Re: Jolly appeals on four grounds

Originally posted by ugg
http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=new...ticleid=199102

We're leaving nothing to chance, appealing on 4 grounds.

I like this one the best:


or in McEnroe lingo "you cannot be serious!"

Four Grounds, I thought he was off the ground when he infringed!!!!!

"that the decision was so unreasonable that no Tribunal acting reasonably could have come to that decision"

Were the on the turps????

[ROK Lobster]

Wednesbury.

[Sanecow]

It's entertaining to see that they are willing to take this all the way to its horrible conclusion.

[Barry Schneider]

I agree with the Swans on all points but they will lose because they are attacking the system itself and the judgement of the people in it.
Whatever the merits of the case are I think the appeal board or whatever they are called will protect the reporting and tribunal process no matter what.
Best case scenario is getting it reduced to a week if that is within their power.

[ROK Lobster]

They are not (and I expect cannot) appealing the merits of the decision. They are only appealing the manner in which the decision was made. The article does not make clear who hears the appeals. Is it the same tribunal, or is there an appeals tribunal?

And will it be heard in Perth? If it is Melb will Jolly have to appear in person?

[giant]

Originally posted by ROK Lobster
They are not (and I expect cannot) appealing the merits of the decision. They are only appealing the manner in which the decision was made. The article does not make clear who hears the appeals. Is it the same tribunal, or is there an appeals tribunal?

And will it be heard in Perth? If it is Melb will Jolly have to appear in person?

No idea how the new tribunal works but the appeal points are very much from an admin law perspective - which would suggest that someone with a legal background hears the appeals rather than the ex-players (as I understand it) that sit on the tribunal.

[j s]

The appeal will be heard tomorrow, Friday April 29, at 10am.

He'll be waiting at the airport with bag packed to hear the result (as will whoever *might* have to replace him)

(I am assuming they will be flying Friday and not wanting to arrive too late - ie the midday flight)

I wonder he will (or is allowed to) be named in the team tonight? I guess as long as the appeal process is incomplete the penalty is not yet applicable so he will be named.

[Rod_]

And James Hird paid the 20K and the next time he fronts the system he cops it sweet, get a week!

We fight all the way..... WE are on a flogging to nothing for this. It is a loose, loose situation. Agreed that the system has failed - but it is the system - play by the rules!

If Jolly had taken an early plea = 1 week - appealed got 2 weeks(is there a doubling factor happening for the next attempt?) what is the probability?

What has this to do with team plans and matchups if we fail. Test a rookie - play the 4th ruck (erikson? for experience) plan to use no ruck and 4 fast tacklers? what ever...

take the moral high ground

Rod_

[Steve]

Can't see how he'll get off - bottom line is he did do it (just a stupid brain fade seemingly).

Reading between the lines they expect Ball to be fit for Essendon, hence thought it was worth the risk to see if they could get him off.

Unfortunately you can't use "well it wasn't as bad as (insert 15 other incidents this year), so he should get off" as a defence - it is very frustrating though.

I know what it is trying to achieve (re: saving time, simplification etc), but I just think the whole 'discount for a guilty plea' arrangement is fundamentally flawed.

Those who feel they are legitimately not guilty are pressured into pleading guilty as a form of risk management, and those who are undeniably guilty (as long as it isn't a Pickett-like incident) get a free discount.

[ScottH]

When/What time is the hearing???

OK, I'll answer my own question.

The appeal will be heard tomorrow, Friday April 29, at 10am.

[Schneiderman]

Originally posted by Steve
Can't see how he'll get off - bottom line is he did do it (just a stupid brain fade seemingly).

Please. He made no contact. Expect players who have a swing at another to get two to three weeks for "intention".

What a crock.

[ScottH]

Originally posted by Schneiderman
Please. He made no contact. Expect players who have a swing at another to get two to three weeks for "intention".

What a crock.

Exactly, what a crock! Godfrey reels backward immediatly after Jolly raises his knee from the contact made.

[Schneiderman]

Originally posted by ScottH
Exactly, what a crock! Godfrey reels backward immediatly after Jolly raises his knee from the contact made.

I think you may find his boot made slight contact with his stomach. If the knee had connected with his sternum he would have been on his ass in a bad way.

[ScottH]

Originally posted by Schneiderman
I think you may find his boot made slight contact with his stomach. If the knee had connected with his sternum he would have been on his ass in a bad way.

I admit he made contact, but not hard enuff to put him on his arse.