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Based on his one game in the ruck this season, Goodes' leap is nowhere near what it used to be and the way his knees jar when he lands reduces his mobility when he inevitably fails to get a hand on the ball. Does everyone forget that he still has dodgy knees?
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Only one dodgy knee. And it is a circle so it could work out.Originally posted by Sanecow
Based on his one game in the ruck this season, Goodes' leap is nowhere near what it used to be and the way his knees jar when he lands reduces his mobility when he inevitably fails to get a hand on the ball. Does everyone forget that he still has dodgy knees?Comment
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Good observation. His career will be shorten for sure with this. But where else can we play him? A dilemma that I am glad I dont have to answer to.Originally posted by Sanecow
Based on his one game in the ruck this season, Goodes' leap is nowhere near what it used to be and the way his knees jar when he lands reduces his mobility when he inevitably fails to get a hand on the ball. Does everyone forget that he still has dodgy knees?Comment
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Vertical leap is very hard to maintain. I would doubt he has done much work on his jumping ability since his injuries last year. He should do better later this year or next year...Originally posted by Sanecow
Based on his one game in the ruck this season, Goodes' leap is nowhere near what it used to be and the way his knees jar when he lands reduces his mobility when he inevitably fails to get a hand on the ball. Does everyone forget that he still has dodgy knees?Comment
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Re: Probably way off topic at this point...
Great theory . . . but nor born aout by Goodes v's cox on the weekend IMOOriginally posted by FootyontheBrain
I completely disagree. I think a shorter, athletic ruckman with a good leap will win more center bounces than a tall tap ruckman.
Reason? A shorter ruck has to jump sooner, and thus is in the air before his taller opponent. Any body contact at this point diminishes the leap of the taller player giving your shorter, more athletic ruck the advantage.
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why does he have dodgy knees? He had a slight knee injury last year, that does not make them dodgy, there is a hell of a lot of other players in the competition that have had much worse knee injuries than him, and have gone on to have highly successful careers.Originally posted by Sanecow
Based on his one game in the ruck this season, Goodes' leap is nowhere near what it used to be and the way his knees jar when he lands reduces his mobility when he inevitably fails to get a hand on the ball. Does everyone forget that he still has dodgy knees?Comment
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There are many types of knee injury and most (all?) of the players that have seriously injured their knees and gone on to highly successful careers have probably had reconstructions and rehab. Unfortunately, Goodes is learning to live with his knee's issues. If you don't think Goodes has a dodgy knee, watch him land after a leap (or watch his post-injury games from 2004). He's far better this year than late last year but he's still not 100%.Originally posted by Syd Swan
why does he have dodgy knees? He had a slight knee injury last year, that does not make them dodgy, there is a hell of a lot of other players in the competition that have had much worse knee injuries than him, and have gone on to have highly successful careers.Comment
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Including any number of dedicated ruckmen.Originally posted by Syd Swan
why does he have dodgy knees? He had a slight knee injury last year, that does not make them dodgy, there is a hell of a lot of other players in the competition that have had much worse knee injuries than him, and have gone on to have highly successful careers.Comment
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I'm sure Morbo finds this information very interesting....Originally posted by Sanecow
Does everyone forget that he still has dodgy knees?"Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi finalComment
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who could use height or strength instead of leap to win ruck contests.Originally posted by Ruckman
Including any number of dedicated ruckmen.Comment
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Including any number of dedicated ruckmen.
Originally posted by Newbie
who could use height or strength instead of leap to win ruck contests.
Non leaping ruckmen? What are they? Your statement doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
Even Sandilands leaps, the only place you can use strengh is inaround the ground stop plays and those are the ones Goodes is best at.
Perhaps you meant "as well as" rather than "instead" in which case yes, he is most disadvantage in the square, but the presence of Jolly/Ball/Doyle makes his presence their less likely (I hope).Last edited by Ruck'n'Roll; 5 May 2005, 04:20 PM.Comment
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Originally posted by Wil
BANG HEAD AGAINST DOOR MULTIPLE TIMES!
Alright it's official. Roos has no idea what he is doing.
If Barry Hall gets named Captain then I am ripping up my membership until we get a coach who has a bit of an idea about this Swans team.
I hve to admit that I am quite bemused by Roos' comments. Why has it taken him SO BLOODY LONG to realise something that people like us on RWO have been saying for the last 12 months.
Why was he so insistant on turning Goodes into a player he simply isn't. He was never a CHB and was way too loose-checking to counter skilful opposition CHFs like Tredrea. at CHF he only clogged up the forward line for Hall. and didn't get the ball enough in the right field position to be really damaging.
I guess it takes a man to publically admit you are wrong I guess.
JF :confused
PS:- Revelling watching PSV's beautiful voetbol on SBS. It is so nice watching free-flowing attractive positive sport! Leuk Eindhoven!
:Last edited by JF_Bay22_SCG; 5 May 2005, 11:07 PM."Never ever ever state that Sydney is gone.They are like cockroaches in the aftermath of a nuclear war"
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Well he said it many times: he just didn't want to risk losing him from the team altogether.Originally posted by JF_Bay22_SCG
Why was he so insistant on turning Goodes into a player he simply isn't. He was never a CHB and was way too loose-checking to counter skilful opposition CHFs like Tredrea. at CHF he only clogged up the forward line for Hall.
Roos only realised recently (maybe he only found RWO just last week) that Goodes was such a benefit in the ruck and only in the ruck. Sure he's an ok player elsewhere but the equation becomes simplified for him now:
Get a fantastic rover who may well never play again
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an average player with minimal impact who has slightly less risk of never playing again.
Its a classic example of fearing so much to lose, that you never take the risk to win.Our Greatest Moment:
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His ruck techniques may be rusty, but jumping ability is not something the body forgets.Originally posted by Wil
Vertical leap is very hard to maintain. I would doubt he has done much work on his jumping ability since his injuries last year. He should do better later this year or next year...Comment
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