Reserves

[Foreign Legion]

Originally posted by Scottee
"Well Andrew Iresland was very clever in moving the Swans from the VFL - to a crap league - great stuff."
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I think that this was organised before Ireland came to the Swans.

No it wasn't, he was the one who instigated that change because it would save the club 200K - whoopee bloody do.

200K out of 20M - brilliant decision.

Too hard for the blokes to come out of the ACTAFL straight into the AFL - a massive step. I bet Vogels had a harder time in the Hampden league.

[robbieando]

The decision was made because

a) It was costing the club too much money to send down 12 players weekly to Melbourne and having to pay Port's VFL licence fee at the same time. The decision was made, as the Swans were being told by the AFL to cut costs in their football department and were about to report a $2 million loss for the 2002 season (our last in the VFL)
b) because Port would only allow 12 Swans "fill-ins" each week, we had some of our reserves playing in Melbourne, with the rest playing for the Redbacks in the Sydney League with fill ins from the NSW Rams. Therefore our rookies had trouble getting use to teammates as a result.
c) The "fill-ins" for Port, flew in on the day of the game and never trained with their Port Melbourne teammates, thus has trouble getting use to gameplan's and what their teammates might do in certain situations.
d) The Swans coaching staff had no control over how Port used our players, thus if we wanted say a Jarrad Sunqvist to play as a midfielder for the whole game, David Dumbar would follow those wishes and used Sundqvist how he best fit into Port's gameplan.
e) The Swans who were playing for the Redback, had little competition (even less than what they get now), were banned from playing in the finals regardless of where they finished and I believe at times had to play with 16 players to allow the other teams to have a chance of winning.

So the reason we are playing in the Canberra League is because the cost is less and the reserves all play together and are not split between two states each week.

[Mark]

Originally posted by ROK Lobster
Hey!

Keep in mind, the Swans reserves have never won this comp. Wagga are always weak. The comp is extremely uneven. But on the whole I agree. Maybe look to the VFL again?

This is a real problem, and may well hurt us going forward. It is hard to know if some of the younger brigades poor disposal is due to this lack of quality oppo week in week out, but it cant help. Liz's point about ease of next possesion is very valid.

I know its not ideal, but i would send them back to the VFL also.

[ItsAllGoodes]

This from SportingPulse

SYDNEY SWANS 30.15-195
vs
WAGGA TIGERS 4.3-27

SYDNEY SWANS

Goal Kickers:
McVeigh 8
Grundy 4
Malceski 3 Schneider 3 Shaw 3
Willoughby 2 Erikson 2
Nicks Potter Powell Schmidt McConnochie 1

Best Players:
McVeigh
Malceski
Nicks
Schneider
Quade
Erikson

[ugg]

Far out, I didn't realise McVeigh kicked that many goals (he missed a sitter from in front too!). That's an unbelievable stat considering he almost played the entire game in the midfield.

[ItsAllGoodes]

And heres the ladder

1 SYDNEY SWANS 5 5 0 779 227 343.17 20
2 QUEANBEYAN TIGERS 5 3 2 622 443 140.41 12
3 AINSLIE KANGAROOS 5 3 2 532 402 132.34 12
4 BELCONNEN MAGPIES 5 3 2 507 384 132.03 12

5 EASTLAKE DEMONS 5 3 2 347 444 78.15 12
6 TUGGERANONG HAWKS 5 2 3 414 495 83.64 8
7 WAGGA TIGERS 5 1 4 332 686 48.40 4
8 WESTON CREEK LIONS 5 0 5 233 685 34.01 0

[ugg]

The reserves report is up:

http://sydneyswans.com.au/default.asp?pg=insidetheclub&spg=reserves

40 possessions to go with the 8 goals.

[sharpie]

Originally posted by ugg
The reserves report is up:

http://sydneyswans.com.au/default.asp?pg=insidetheclub&spg=reserves

40 possessions to go with the 8 goals.

Seems to be a bit like LRT. Everytime he plays in the reserves he absolutely dominates but just hasnt been able to make the step up to seniors yet.

Good to see Malceski's game was also rated highly.

Also, finally they may get a decent contest next week against Belconnen.

[adnar]

http://redandwhiteonline.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9097

Thought some people might be interested in this.

[Legs Akimbo]

Originally posted by adnar
http://redandwhiteonline.com/forum/s...&threadid=9097
Thought some people might be interested in this.

I think this is damn fine idea. It's a wonder that the AFL or the Swans has not looked at it already.

[Ruck'n'Roll]

The Swans have never won the ACTFL competition (in fact last year we barely made the finals), so it seems a little pre-mature to want to drop out of that competition because it's too easy.

Maybe this year we will in which case then perhaps we can start talking about it being too easy.

Frankly I think a lot of credit should be going to Big Earl who is giving our midfielders a wonderfull ride.

Obviously it's a very uneven competition, but it always has been. The ACTFL have brought in outside teams to replace really bad local temas to try and boost the quality and evenness (strangely enough Wagga is included for this reason but Campbelltown and Batemens Bay have also been in the ACTFL in the last decade or so.