Sick of It

[motorace_182]

Every week goes by where we hear the same @@@@ over and over again; "We dont have the list"... "We dont have any superstars"... "We are a working class midfield that needs everyone to fire to play ok".
This is absolute crap. We have: Adam Goodes (Bronlow Medalist!!), Barry Hall, Micheal O'Loughlin, Leo Barry, Brett Kirk, Jude Bolton... every single one has the ability to turn a game on its head. For anyone to say that we dont have the talent, they are just making excuses. Paul Roos filled this same team with passion and confidence and took us to a Preliminary Final! We have more youngsters than ever pressing for selection. Noone can say that we dont have the names or guns to match it with those in the top 8. Look at Adelaide for Christs sake!!
I would say that only the Weagles, the Cats and at times the Aints have a list that may be superior to ours.
Stop pumpin out lame excuses that have no truth. Its time for Roosy to have a hard look in the mirror, wake up to himself and realise that he has the talent, he just has to realise how to use it!! Send the lads out there to have fun. They dont seem to be enjoying their footy this year. Give them the freedom to play a style they want. We have the leg speed to play our ruinning style of footy. We arent slow and old like Port or the Lions, so lets stop playing like it!
When you have a forward line with Hall, Magic, ROK, Ball, Goodes etc packing it, why wouldnt you fang it in long? To have the 2nd LOWEST Inside 50s EVER is a disgrace.
Roosy, stop talkin @@@@ and send the lads out that want to have a red hot go, leave those that dont at home cos we have the ability, all we seem to be lacking is the desire!

[Ryan Bomford]

Amen, motor, Amen.

[Schneiderman]

Re: Sick of It

Originally posted by motorace_182
Every week goes by where we hear the same @@@@ over and over again; "We dont have the list"... "We dont have any superstars"... "We are a working class midfield that needs everyone to fire to play ok".

EVERY week? Didn't hear it for the previous three. It only comes when we get beaten. And fair enough. Because its true. Even GT said it before and after the game: "If we apply 100% effort we can win"

Send the lads out there to have fun. They dont seem to be enjoying their footy this year. Give them the freedom to play a style they want. We have the leg speed to play our ruinning style of footy. We arent slow and old like Port or the Lions, so lets stop playing like it!

There is the little matter of opposition, and personal confidence. Roos has only minimal control over either. The players have to take responsibility too.

Roosy, stop talkin @@@@ and send the lads out that want to have a red hot go, leave those that dont at home cos we have the ability, all we seem to be lacking is the desire!

Do you really think he tells them to go out there and tank it?

[dawson]

And what may compound the problem is that he will begin to lose the confidence of the players.

The players are made to look bad by following this game plan and it is detrimental to their careers.

The basic strategy of sport is to have various game plans tucked under your sleeve incase Plan A goes awry.

Flooding and all the chipping around was good as a Plan B or even C but to do it week in, week out is so predictable.

Furthermore the opposition coaches have been spending a week if not more coming up with a gameplan of their own to bring our BS style of footy undone.

Roos has dug himself in a corner. When Demetriou came out and slagged the Swans - Roos came out and defended the team and the game plan. But since then things have deteriorated to such a degree that even he now has woken up and smelt the coffee.

The games against Port Adelaide and St Kilda are an indictment on the game.

To become ultra-defensive from the get-go is a recipe for disaster. Even if you win the game, which you won't, you are going to lose many friends.

[TheHood]

What are we (the coaching staff) teaching our players if all we can do at the end of the day is throw our arms up in the air and say, "Luke Ablett isn't as talented as his direct opponent and he never will be" or "Adam Schneider isn't fast or clever nor will he ever be"?

Why are we not working to improve these guys and give them their heads to show us what they're capable of?

All we're doing lately it seems is giving anybody who can fog a mirror and wear red and white is some sort of lock-down job on every other midfielder and forward in the comp who is "more talented" than ours!

Why are our running players (Crouchy aside lately) not spinting through the centre to recieve? All our runners must think they're doing laps around the boundary because that's where they're off to.

We're not meant to be a team in a degeneration faze or a rebuilding faze. According to my watch, we're supposed to be firing at or near our peak of player experience and talent.

We have the talent and the experience but it's being extinguished...stamped on like a small brush fire.

[Plugger46]

When are we going to hear Roos take some of the blame? He is as weak as piss at the moment.

[Nico]

he just has to realise how to use it!!


How long does he need, he has been assistant for 2 years and senior coach for darn near 3 years. Strewth.

[Guzzitza]

i started a thread about 4 weeks ago complaining about Roos not taking responsibility, and i was attacked for saying it. Geez, how things change

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by Guzzitza
i started a thread about 4 weeks ago complaining about Roos not taking responsibility, and i was attacked for saying it. Geez, how things change

No - you'll notice the same person...

[ScottH]

Originally posted by Plugger46
When are we going to hear Roos take some of the blame? He is as weak as piss at the moment.

He has taken the blame.

Roos takes it on chin and puts it down to experience

[stellation]

Originally posted by ScottH
He has taken the blame.

Roos takes it on chin and puts it down to experience

But he has taken the blame in a "not taking the blame" kind of way. He is accepting that the coaching staff needed to do more development of the young guys, which puts it back on poor player performance (and admitting that the coaching staff may have contributed to that). He doesn't concede that he may have been out coached, that he has a crazy game plan, that he should have moved Leo off Gehrig but made poor selection decisions and was stuck with them, that he seemed to decide to play Ball ahead of Jolly in the latter stages of the game....

[Mike_B]

Originally posted by stellation
But he has taken the blame in a "not taking the blame" kind of way.

Spot on. And to claim that Maxfield provides us with attacking drive, well, not anymore IMHO. This year when he was playing, he was generally playing between the Centre and HB and was kicking to about the forward edge of the centre square, with no penetration or accuracy. Nor was he providing us with much running through the lines as he had previously.

[ScottH]

Originally posted by Mike_B
Nor was he providing us with much running through the lines as he had previously.

Just through the heads!!

[Legs Akimbo]

Lions fans must love matthews

Compare Roos comments to this...

Lions article

The experienced players are going to be no worse and there will be a lot of young guys who will be a lot better with 25 games under their belt," he said. He was impressed with some of the younger players and that Leigh Ryswyk was ready for selection, making him the 10th debutant for the Lions this year.

"We're not consigning ourselves to bottom four or anything like that but we are in a transition stage of experienced players moving through the system and inexperienced players coming into the system,"

What Roos has not worked out, or perhaps Colless, is that when fans know there is no real hope of winning the flag, the substitute is seeing younger guys come in an debut.

Perhaps the problem is they still think they can win the flag.
Maybe we have too many hacks on fat contracts so they feel obliged to play them?
Maybe they don't rate our younger players?

I''m not suggesting we tank, but it's getting to the point where a serious reappraisal is needed.

[Syd Swan]

Originally posted by stellation
But he has taken the blame in a "not taking the blame" kind of way. He is accepting that the coaching staff needed to do more development of the young guys, which puts it back on poor player performance (and admitting that the coaching staff may have contributed to that). He doesn't concede that he may have been out coached, that he has a crazy game plan, that he should have moved Leo off Gehrig but made poor selection decisions and was stuck with them, that he seemed to decide to play Ball ahead of Jolly in the latter stages of the game....

Thats the way I read it too. It seemed to me that he was just saying that our game plan is fine and the younger guys haven't quite adopted it yet. Surely he must realise by now that our game plan is absolute crap, he should let the players go out there and for at least the first half take some risks and actually try and score. If by then we are getting flogged, we could probably then go a bit more defensive to lessen the damage. On another point, a lot of people say that we need to finish in the top 8 otherwise the crowds will drop away, I think that if we continue to play this crap style it is going to happen anyway. I can't imagine the people of Sydney spending their Sunday afternoons going to watch some of the most boring football ever played in the history of the game. From what I can gather the Sydney public want to see exicting football, with high marking, high scoring games.