Jason Ball - Injured?

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  • Rod_
    Senior Player
    • Jan 2003
    • 1179

    Jason Ball - Injured?

    The only negative for the Swans was that most missed No. 1 ruckman Jason Ball limping through the interchange gate in the last minute. Ball, hobbling with a bandaged right knee, couldn't join teammates dispersed to various sections of the ground after the final siren to acknowledge fan support.




    Rod_
  • Ruckman
    Ego alta, ergo ictus
    • Nov 2003
    • 3990

    #2
    While I hope the big guy isn't injured I am very disappointed about the Jolly/Ball ruck partnership. In the last two weeks they've been beaten by StKilda's Blake and this week by a first gamer.
    And while I know our two are less mobile than their opponents that largely because they're bigger than their opponents. Yet I didn't see them do any hard bodying on their lighter and less experienced opponents (I'd love to hear from any eye witness who can tell me different).
    Why on earth are we playing to 2 big strong ruckmen while in their present mindset we'd be better off with just one and an additional runner?

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    • Rod_
      Senior Player
      • Jan 2003
      • 1179

      #3
      I don't know! You would think that seasoned ruckmen wouldn't be taken to task by a first gamer?

      Rod_

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      • NMWBloods
        Taking Refuge!!
        • Jan 2003
        • 15819

        #4
        Silvagni was very disappointed in the efforts of Ball/Jolly. Thought they should have been much more physical with Bryan. I think that Bryan tiring and going out of the game in the last quarter was a critical factor in our win.
        Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

        "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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        • Rizzo
          On the Rookie List
          • Jan 2003
          • 655

          #5
          Ball/Jolly - 35 hitouts between them
          Bryan - 17

          I hope Ball is OK, he seemed to be working himself back into some form.

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          • NMWBloods
            Taking Refuge!!
            • Jan 2003
            • 15819

            #6
            To 3QT:

            Jolly + Ball = 17 possessions

            Bryan = 18 possessions
            Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

            "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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            • Ruckman
              Ego alta, ergo ictus
              • Nov 2003
              • 3990

              #7
              Last week Blake got beaten in the taps yet had 16 posesions (Jolly and Ball had 15 betwen them).
              The statistics of course don't include the hard stuff, which is fortunate for our ruckmen because that's the area they're mostly failing in.

              I blame Barry Hall, he's so enjoying life without being Big&Bad that he's encouraging our ruckmen to play like flower children.
              Sortof

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              • Wil
                On the Rookie List
                • Jun 2004
                • 619

                #8
                Does Goodes take away from the potential Ruck possessions?

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                • Rizzo
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 655

                  #9
                  Goodes had 4 hitouts according the afl.com.au

                  Don't know why they have one less against Bryan's name than you NMWBloods. What's your source?

                  I thought Bryan's debut was one of the most impressive that I've watched, second behind his team mate Fevola. What a kick huh?

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                  • ScottH
                    It's Goodes to cheer!!
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 23665

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Rizzo
                    Goodes had 4 hitouts according the afl.com.au

                    Don't know why they have one less against Bryan's name than you NMWBloods. What's your source?

                    I thought Bryan's debut was one of the most impressive that I've watched, second behind his team mate Fevola. What a kick huh?
                    Outstanding, played like a pro. And the commentators got excited everytime he got the ball to have a kick.

                    And the crowd went "woof"

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                    • NMWBloods
                      Taking Refuge!!
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 15819

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Rizzo
                      Don't know why they have one less against Bryan's name than you NMWBloods. What's your source?
                      I was commenting on possessions not hitouts.
                      Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                      "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                      • giant
                        Veterans List
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 4731

                        #12
                        I too thought Ball was starting to look a bit better so let's hope it's nothing serious.

                        Any word on Davis? there was a suggestion he was looking proppy too. Great to see the acknowledgment he got from his team mates when those two tackles led to a critical goal.

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                        • Ruckman
                          Ego alta, ergo ictus
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 3990

                          #13
                          Originally posted by giant
                          Davis?
                          Great to see the acknowledgment he got from his team mates when those two tackles led to a critical goal.
                          He actually looked (on the telly) wobbly on his feet after that effort. So either he's short of a gallup (despite Roos claims to the contary) or he shocked himself be utilising a months tackle in one passage of play.

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                          • chammond
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 1368

                            #14
                            Ball and Davis both played like they are sorely in need of match fitness . . . they will certainly be improved by the run.

                            There's no way that Bryan beat Jolly and Ball in the ruck . . . quite the reverse. Bryan played a blinder for a first gamer. He got a ton of possessions because he was continuously on the ground until well into the last quarter, whereas Jolly and Ball rotated all day.

                            Jolly is the real deal, and by far the best ruckman on the ground on Saturday.

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                            • NMWBloods
                              Taking Refuge!!
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 15819

                              #15
                              Depends on what gives a win for ruckmen.

                              Bryan had more centre bounce taps - 12 v. 10.

                              Jolly + Ball had more around the ground - 24 v. 5 (although it's probably more like 18 v. 5 as Bryan didn't really ruck much inthe last qtr).

                              Bryan had more possessions to 3QT - 18 v. 17.

                              Bryan had more clearances - 6 v. 3.
                              Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                              "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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