Free kick prediction v D's

[Thunder Shaker]

Re: Free kick prediction v D's

Originally posted by barry
Sydney 12
Melbourne 25

With a 5-16 free kick count to half time.

[silent lurker]

Originally posted by Jeffers1984
The ultimate worst trio to umpire us in a game would be:

Darren Goldspink, Brett Allen, Scott Mclaren

One of the umps from the Pies game can be emergency.

Shudders at the thought.

No room for Justin Schmitt?

[Vivien]

I think the Barry on Thurley free kick was fair enough. At first glance I thought we were harshly done by, but looking at the replay it was definitely there, even though Thurley did sort of just fall over and drag Leo with him. If it were Scarlett in Barry Hall's back I think we'd all feel it was fair enough.

Lack of consistent umpiring is definitely hurting us, but I what I also can't stand is the fact that we seem to give away a lot of free kicks when the momentum of a game is just starting to swing our way, or when we're just starting to mount a comeback. This dampens the momentum we might otherwise have had.

One final thought - is it just a coincidence that in the last 3 weeks, when the free kick count has gone well against us, that we have played 3 Melbourne sides?

[Vivien]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
One of the problems is that Kennelly and Barry are very untidy tacklers (and Bevan when he's in), and a few of our other players can be too.

That's not to say we don't get a bad run at times, but our reckless tackling doesn't help.

100% agree.

[Benevolent Ert]

Originally posted by Vivien
I think the Barry on Thurley free kick was fair enough. At first glance I thought we were harshly done by, but looking at the replay it was definitely there, even though Thurley did sort of just fall over and drag Leo with him. If it were Scarlett in Barry Hall's back I think we'd all feel it was fair enough.

If it were Scarlett in Hall's back there's no way in a million years it would be paid

[Vivien]

Originally posted by Ert
If it were Scarlett in Hall's back there's no way in a million years it would be paid

Exactly. And we'd all be livid.

[liz]

Talking of frees, what did people think about the HTB decision against Hall? IMO he had no prior opportunity and it was a great tackle that pinned his arms and gave him no opportunity to dispose of the ball. But because he tried to break free rather than stand meekly as soon as he was tackled, he was pinged.

It's the second time in a month that he's had a HTB against him in these circumstances.

[ugg]

Exactly, there was no way in the world he had an opportunity to dispose of the ball. Yes, he did try to break through the tacklers, but he shouldn't be pinged for it. Perhaps if he had dropped it stone cold like some Geelong players did he could have got away with it. Its just an example of the different set of rules that he is adjudicated under.

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by liz
But because he tried to break free rather than stand meekly as soon as he was tackled, he was pinged.

The inconsistency of HTB, particularly this part, really p*sses me off!

[Diego]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
The inconsistency of HTB, particularly this part, really p*sses me off!

It's a fine line between pleasure and pain.

[BonBon]

I'm not going to predict, but however many free kcks we get, add about 5-10 on that. Umpires are very inaccurate.

[TheHood]

Originally posted by liz
Talking of frees, what did people think about the HTB decision against Hall? IMO he had no prior opportunity and it was a great tackle that pinned his arms and gave him no opportunity to dispose of the ball. But because he tried to break free rather than stand meekly as soon as he was tackled, he was pinged.

It's the second time in a month that he's had a HTB against him in these circumstances.

Yep, the unwritten rule is;

If you're big and you're pinned and you try and bust the tackle and you're unsuccessful, then You're Gone!

The rules committee are meek and the umpires have questionable intelligence, all makes for the annoying regulation our game is slave to.

The more this year goes on, the more Roosy's suggestion in 2003 that Umps need to be full time and have a proper training centre/academy because this current lot are just plain @@@@*d!

[stellation]

Originally posted by TheHood
The rules committee are meek and

shall inherit the earth, which hardly seems fair.

[Agent 86]

Originally posted by liz
...because he tried to break free rather than stand meekly as soon as he was tackled, he was pinged.

It was harsh - but Barry almost always takes on defenders (and I wouldn't have it any other way) & he is gonna get pinged occasionally.

What's really annoying me lately is when a player on the ground with the ball has 3 defenders jump on him gets penalised. I'm predicting Melbourne to get 4 frees for this on the weekend.

[Old Royboy]

We winge about the umpiring, but have a look at the stats; most of the free kick deficit is down to 4 or 5 serial offenders, mostly down back.

Leo 10-18, Tadgh 10-20, LRT 8-15, Crouchy 10-15 and of course serial maggot victim Bazza at 15-24.

Swans defence is 3rd best in the comp, yet we probably give away more goals through free kicks (esp as a % of total score) than most. If pressure saves 6 goals, but costs 3 through free kicks I?ll take the pressure, untidy as it is.

Our backs need to work on their tackling technique, but realistically it (and umpire interpretation) will not change overnight. I reckon the lopsided counts (and our moaning) will continue.