Schneider Back

[Nico]

Originally posted by Bleed Red Blood
We're you bothered about this in 2003? I doubt it, cause he was playing confident, fast football. From a forward pocket. Play him there for now, and he may just develop into a good midfielder one day. Schneiders still had a better career than Didak, and he gets a forward pocket. Why shouldn't Schneider?

And in 2003 did you see him blatantly pull out of a contest in the forward pocket at Optus Oval. I know all the Swans supporters around us oood and ahhhd. Will never make a decent midfielder while his posterior points to the ground.

[Xie Shan]

Originally posted by Nico
Will never make a decent midfielder while his posterior points to the ground.

That's because he isn't a midfielder...if he's going to be in the team, I think he should just stay in the forward line as a permanent crumber, because that's what brought him his success in 2003. However, tackling, chasing and harassing defenders are all just as important as kicking goals for a small forward - which is really the only ingredient missing from our forward line, which probably hasn't done enough to stop the ball from coming out quickly this year.

May as well give Schneider the chance to regain the position we thought he was going to make his own a couple of years ago. He's still probably the best option for the crumbing role. I reckon he'll be alright if he can get his confidence back. Was never the same since tearing the hamstring against Essendon at the MCG last year. (Maybe a change back to #36 is the answer???)

[Sean]

Originally posted by Roscoe
Sean

you must have been watching a different game

No.

Scneider let davey get that goal in the forward pocket via poor

You mean Davey's one goal for the night? Don't think you are over-reacting a bit?

BTW, I'm not even sure if Schneider was on him at that point - someone said that was after the switch with Tadhg. Anyway, for the sake of this discussion we'll assume Adam was still on him.

His tackling was poor and did any of his chases result in any pressure on his opponent - no

His opponent kicked one goal and constantly missed targets. So, yes, his chases did put pressure on his opponent.

The area where he struggled was spoiling. Davey took one mark that he shouldn't have been allowed to get. Bruce also got one but I'm not sure why Schneider was the one defending it anyway - he was always going to lose that.

His disposal was mixed and he needs to concentrate on kicking better under pressure. However, his involvement in the last quarter after he was relieved from his tagging job was quite useful.

Throughout the match his run out of defence was quite good considering that there was very little of that from Crouch (only had one or two touches I think) & Tadhg.

I could see him being dropped next week if there isn't an obvious role for him but I'm sure that Roos would be happy enough with his efforts.

[ugg]

Schneider definitely was on Davey then, but I don't know what he could have done to prevent the goal. He was right on Davey's tail but he was just too quick and skilful to snap the goal from that angle.

[Sean]

Originally posted by ugg
He was right on Davey's tail but he was just too quick and skilful to snap the goal from that angle.

That's something that is possibly being overlooked a bit here - tagging the fastest player in the AFL would actually be a really difficult job.

[ScottH]

Originally posted by Roscoe
Scneider let davey get that goal in the forward pocket via poor
marking.

I would put that one down to poor ruck work from Jolly. Being that close to goal he would've been better off smashing it thru for a point rather than tapping it down to nobody, allowing Davey to snal a freakish goal, Not Schneider.

[ScottH]

Schneider constantly wrestled with Davey at marking contests and kept him from getting the ball. I thought Scheider did a good job on Davey, and extremely elusive player, while not being very effective himself.

[smasher]

I would not drop Schnieder.Players need to string a couple of games together to give a fair indication of what they are capable of.If you look at the stats and didn't see the game you would think young Adam had had a good game.

[stellation]

Originally posted by ScottH
I would put that one down to poor ruck work from Jolly. Being that close to goal he would've been better off smashing it thru for a point rather than tapping it down to nobody, allowing Davey to snal a freakish goal, Not Schneider.

I'm pretty sure on the replay that Neitz put a block on Schneider (or a half block) that helped Davey get the step on him also.

[ScottH]

Originally posted by stellation
I'm pretty sure on the replay that Neitz put a block on Schneider (or a half block) that helped Davey get the step on him also.

OK, but I still think jolly should smashed it thru for a point.

[stellation]

Originally posted by ScottH
OK, but I still think jolly should smashed it thru for a point.

Totally agree. Probably Jolly's one brain explosion of the match.

[sharp9]

I was very pleased with Schneider's game. his first with a positive inpuit for the year. Davey accountable for the whole game. I was very heartened to see how many contests Schneids was in.

Above all I liked a little thing most would have missed....in the replay of the goal from a low angle in the pocket in the bottom corner of the screen you can just make out the back of Schneider thumping the ground in disappontment. I've been looking for that level of commitment and pride.

He was handed a big challenge and came out even, he was one half step and freakish snap from coming away with the honours.

Great to see him angry and wanting to turn that around.

Too often he seems to float around games not really worried one way or the other. Accountability was an excellent idea from Roosy, IMO.

Let's not forget that Davey gave Crouch an absolute towelling at the SCG.

[Ruck'n'Roll]

Originally posted by sharp9
an excellent idea from Roosy, IMO.

Yes definitely one out-of-the-box, I'm not sure about it long term but I believe it worked.

[Schneiderman]

Originally posted by Ruckman
Yes definitely one out-of-the-box, I'm not sure about it long term but I believe it worked.

I reckon it might have taught Adam a thing or two. Schneider WAS the Davey of 2003. Explosive pace, long runs, awesome freakish goals.

Defending against such a player teaches you why they are so dangerous... I think Schneider will hopefully now remember how to do the same thing to oppostition teams.

[Mark]

Originally posted by Schneiderman
IDefending against such a player teaches you why they are so dangerous... I think Schneider will hopefully now remember how to do the same thing to oppostition teams.

Hopefully it teaches him how important chasing and tackling is !

Davey is anything but lazy