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  • mariachi
    Pushing for Selection
    • Sep 2005
    • 72

    leadership

    Here's a simple idea.

    We have a captain, who at present is mostly in the forward line.
    We also have a mid field and a backline.

    The leadership rotation worked well.

    Why not a captain and two "zone leaders" who each direct the area they play in.

    So under the current arrangement we have Big Bad as captain and forward leader, then (from the leadership roster) Tiberius (Kirk) as midfield leader and Leaping Leo as backline leader.

    It makes allows closer direction of play and players, makes the other players more responsible, and opens up another career ambition for all the players - they can become a zone leader as part of the step to become club captain.

    Thoughts? Feelings? (anyone got a snappier name than zone leader?)

    I'm really starting to relish the prospect of beating the Saints an Friday night - they are sounding v arrogant...

    GO SWANNIES! ATTACK! ATTACK! ATTACK!
  • ScottH
    It's Goodes to cheer!!
    • Sep 2003
    • 23665

    #2
    Is a good idea.

    Something along those lines were discussed a few months ago, if you search the RWO Chat forum, you might find what others thought.

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    • Mike_B
      Peyow Peyow
      • Jan 2003
      • 6267

      #3
      Even Roos has alluded to this being an unofficial leadership structure of sorts on the ground. So while one might be the face of the club in the official capacity, when it comes to game day, he wants a group of them to take on a role of captain.

      I'm on the Chandwagon!!!

      If you cannot compete for the premiership, it's better to be young and exciting than middle-aged and dowdy.

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      • mariachi
        Pushing for Selection
        • Sep 2005
        • 72

        #4
        Originally posted by Mike_B
        Even Roos has alluded to this being an unofficial leadership structure of sorts on the ground. So while one might be the face of the club in the official capacity, when it comes to game day, he wants a group of them to take on a role of captain.

        as you say, there is an informal leadership structure - my point being that formalising it should lead to greater accountability. Of course it takes all 22 to play their best to win big matches, but with a zone leader there's someone who has the reponsibility to direct that area. (even the maggots recognise that one person can't be everywhere all the time)

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        • Go Swannies
          Veterans List
          • Sep 2003
          • 5697

          #5
          Originally posted by mariachi
          as you say, there is an informal leadership structure - my point being that formalising it should lead to greater accountability. Of course it takes all 22 to play their best to win big matches, but with a zone leader there's someone who has the reponsibility to direct that area. (even the maggots recognise that one person can't be everywhere all the time)
          No - there's a formal leadership group. Each has a role in directing part of the team. Funny that when a cooler head was needed to keep Baz calm they picked Crouch though he isn't in the leadership group - yet.

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          • NMWBloods
            Taking Refuge!!
            • Jan 2003
            • 15819

            #6
            I don't understand why Crouch isn't in the leadership group.
            Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

            "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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            • Ruckman
              Ego alta, ergo ictus
              • Nov 2003
              • 3990

              #7
              Originally posted by NMWBloods
              I don't understand why Crouch isn't in the leadership group.
              It must be difficult for a full on Christian to be "one of the boys" sometimes.

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              • mocaholic
                Regular in the Side
                • Oct 2003
                • 575

                #8
                Leadership...captaincy

                If we were to pick next years skipper based on our two finals games, imo we have a nominee who stands out like dogs balls.

                Brett Kirk.

                Has been magnificent.
                Insert Your Life [HERE]

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                • Go Swannies
                  Veterans List
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 5697

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Ruckman
                  It must be difficult for a full on Christian to be "one of the boys" sometimes.
                  Goodes is, I think. And Tiger of course. Disciples=gang=team? Just different eras. There's a difference between personal faith and bible bashing. Though I think it was Willo that told us that Crouch just never shuts up on the field - to his teammates, opposition (bring ear plugs Milne) and the umps. So maybe he can become a televangelist?

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                  • timthefish
                    Regular in the Side
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 940

                    #10
                    Re: Leadership...captaincy

                    Originally posted by mocaholic
                    If we were to pick next years skipper based on our two finals games, imo we have a nominee who stands out like dogs balls.

                    Brett Kirk.

                    Has been magnificent.
                    agreed, though let's hope that at least each of hall, goodes and bolton makes a pressing case over the next two weeks.
                    then again, i think it would be worth trying 15-16 players on field so what would i know

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                    • motorace_182
                      On the Rookie List
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 961

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Go Swannies
                      Goodes is, I think. And Tiger of course. Disciples=gang=team? Just different eras. There's a difference between personal faith and bible bashing. Though I think it was Willo that told us that Crouch just never shuts up on the field - to his teammates, opposition (bring ear plugs Milne) and the umps. So maybe he can become a televangelist?
                      I asked Crouch to come to our Youth Group one friday before the season started, amazing bloke. Its a fair drive out our way in the peak hour but he came and stayed for a solid 5-6 hours chattin with the kids and helpin out with the games. Regardless of his status in the leadership group, hes a dam fine leader within the community.
                      - Impossible is just a big word thrown around by small men who find it easier to live in a world they've been given, than to explore the power they have to change it. Impossible is not a fact, it's an opinion. Impossible is not a declaration, it's a dare. Impossible is potential. Impossible is temporary. Impossible is nothing!

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                      • Sanecow
                        Suspended by the MRP
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 6917

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Ruckman
                        It must be difficult for a full on Christian to be "one of the boys" sometimes.
                        If a Buddhist can do it, I'm sure he can manage Just look at the crew JC used to hang with - prostitutes and tax collectors. May was well play for Collingwood

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                        • Ruckman
                          Ego alta, ergo ictus
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 3990

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Sanecow
                          If a Buddhist can do it, I'm sure he can manage
                          Which captain's a buddhist? In any case whether you think a prosetilizing Christian is capable of being part of the leadership group is irrelevant (though it suggests a somewhat tenuous grasp of the reality of team dynamics). Ddespite his Australian jumper and many games on end the players have, for whatever reason, decided otherwise.

                          Originally posted by Sanecow
                          Just look at the crew JC used to hang with - prostitutes and tax collectors. May was well play for Collingwood
                          Indeed my reading of the texts suggest that JC wasn't a dogmatic, puritanical wowser; which made him very different from many of those who currently purport to be his followers.

                          I shall now return you to your regular discussion of football . . . . . . Here endeth the lesson.
                          Last edited by Ruck'n'Roll; 13 September 2005, 01:12 PM.

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                          • Sanecow
                            Suspended by the MRP
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 6917

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Ruckman
                            Which captain's a buddhist?
                            Brett Kirk. Source

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                            • Ruckman
                              Ego alta, ergo ictus
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 3990

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Sanecow
                              Brett Kirk.
                              I half suspected that, although if you watch Leo's footwork long enough you could almost believe he's tracing out a particularly convoluted mandala.

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