Balmain Coach

[I_Heart_Kefalas]

"A player gets 30 effective disposals, 14 marks and kicks 3 goals."

@@@@! The Rooster sounds like he has had a day out!! Good on him. Must have taken it easy on the King Browns up in Darwin over the summer!!

[BeeEmmAre]

Anyone who believes the best players on the field are the ones that are named in the paper has very little knowledge of football.

They arent worth two bob and I thought every body understood that.

I understand that some clubs have little or no regard for their supporters, especially those who don't live locally and the only way they have of knowing how their team is going and who is playing well is to look it up in the the paper or the internet.
I would have thought it was simple. Best = Best. And those clubs that don't do it that way "aren't worth two bob", as you put it.

How do I find some of this 'knowledge of football' that, judging by your long time contributions here, only you seem to have?

[humphrey bear]

How do I find some of this 'knowledge of football' that, judging by your long time contributions here, only you seem to have?

BMR

Thanks for acknowledging my superior intellect.

As to increasing your knowledge of football I am not sure I can help. Some people just take longer than other to pick things up.

It would seem to me that you are the only one on here who pays any credence to the best players in the paper.

As the Kanga coach mentions I thought it was common knowledge that particularly in Sydney a mention in the paper is just as likely to be an "encouragement award' for a young player or an acknowledgement of fringe player who has had a couple of reasonable games rather than the outright best players as a coach may have voted in the B & F.

[KangaCoach]

BMR

Thanks for acknowledging my superior intellect.

As to increasing your knowledge of football I am not sure I can help. Some people just take longer than other to pick things up.

It would seem to me that you are the only one on here who pays any credence to the best players in the paper.

As the Kanga coach mentions I thought it was common knowledge that particularly in Sydney a mention in the paper is just as likely to be an "encouragement award' for a young player or an acknowledgement of fringe player who has had a couple of reasonable games rather than the outright best players as a coach may have voted in the B & F.

Just to be clear for Blues supporters. The players named in the best for Campbelltown are the best players. Sometimes you have more than 6 who have played equally well and you need to consider the players performance statistically as well as their performance potential.

[BeeEmmAre]

I'm not saying I believe they are always right, I'm saying what they should be used for.
I'll back down a little bit and say there is room in positions 6 or occasionally 5 for an encouragement, but the top 4 definitely should always be the top 4.
Again, I'm not saying they are, I'm saying they should be.

[Key Forward]

What about the coaches who don't want to give away who there best players are, to other coaches in the league, who may not get to see the other teams games?

[tara]

What about the coaches who don't want to give away who there best players are, to other coaches in the league, who may not get to see the other teams games?

If they arnt checking out the other teams what are they doing coaching?

[Bryan Strauchan]

Regarding the best players I think you will find at most clubs either a team manager, the assistants, a football operations guy, a supporter or sometimes the coach will give the best players. Depending on the resources of a club their could be any number of people to submit their best.Everyone see's the game differently. I personally think the coach should do it.

[shearer]

When i coached i always put the best 6 in. As Kanga said, some games you might be only to come up with 3 and other days 10. If i was unsure, team manager or assistant coaches always helped.

[Key Forward]

If they arnt checking out the other teams what are they doing coaching?

Are you suggesting that every coach should get to every game every week? I would say this is impossible and that coaches obviously check which players are named in the best for the opposition. If this is the case, why would you name all your best players every week and give this away?

[BeeEmmAre]

Are you suggesting that every coach should get to every game every week? I would say this is impossible and that coaches obviously check which players are named in the best for the opposition. If this is the case, why would you name all your best players every week and give this away?

At Sydney AFL level, it is not hard to work out who the key players are in any team - and they are the ones who will get closer attention in the match ups, or with taggers, regardless of whether they are playing well.
If a coach puts in young guys that don't necessarily deserve to be there and they cop extra attention because of that, how can that be good for their confidence?
Besides, i you're hiding a player from the best and he comes out and starts carving up in the first five minutes, it ain't gonna take long for any coach worth his salt to whack someone on him.

[tara]

We keep hearing from certain parties that Sydney AFL is becoming more and more professional. Surely the coaching staff have people they trust with these duties so that they can prepare? Surely that the also attend games on days when thier sides are not playing. I may only be coaching second div but I still get out and have a look so that I can prepare. I think filthy from the Bulldogs got a a small shock when having a beer with the jets after their trial and enquiring about my boys discovered I wasnt the regular waterboy with the Jets.

[Key Forward]

BeeEmmAre - I guess at the end of the day coaches have different reasons why they may put a player in the best or not, and it may not always represent the actual best for the day. Would you agree?

tara - From all reports you do a fine job and I am not in a position to argue. However, I highly doubt that all coaches or assistants, get to see every game every week. If I was coaching I wouldn't always have my best players in the best every week. That's all.

[tara]

BeeEmmAre - I guess at the end of the day coaches have different reasons why they may put a player in the best or not, and it may not always represent the actual best for the day. Would you agree?

tara - From all reports you do a fine job and I am not in a position to argue. However, I highly doubt that all coaches or assistants, get to see every game every week. If I was coaching I wouldn't always have my best players in the best every week. That's all.

I wasnt suggesting that all of them do, more so that one person with a good knowledge of what the coaching staff are wanting feedback on does. More in relation to Prem League. First Div most should have an idea of who is out there and who their main competiton will be. I would expect that those guys have a look at teams they percieve to be the biggest threat. In my position I had very little idea of the competition we would face and needed to get a feel for the other sides.

[rooboy]

Well I hate to disagree Ash but our best on the weekend were actually as named. I know that Webby would have a laugh at the suggestion he was our best on the weekend. Although you are right, the players named may not always be the best 6. It is sometimes hard to find 6 best players and yet other games you could name 10! For the record I try to make sure the players who play well are acknowledged.

The punter on the side line does not know what job different players have or even who their direct opponents are most of the time and therefore are looking at just one phase of the game. Like you Ash different people have different opinions on what constitutes a good player and/or a good performance. I guess each teams coaching staff are in the best position to judge their teams best players although I must admit I have been amused myself on occasions. (Probably through ignorance of opposition strategy of course!)

Question for you Ash: A player gets 30 effective disposals, 14 marks and kicks 3 goals. What sort of numbers and performance would you need to knock him off for BOG & How would he possibly not be in your best 10?

I look forward to your reply and it will be interesting to see if there is any logic behind your analysis. (I will tell you Webby's stats after your reply)

Totally agree KC. It must be hard to pick the 6 best when you have grocs like you & rooster playing and taking spots of others who really have the best interest of the club at heart.

Geez both of you were average against the Dockers. Is Troy allowed to be accountable? is he allowed to do anything he wants on the field?this because of the lack of money you can pay him? Coles had 10 shots on goal. If he kicked straight you were gone. One thing l give you KC at least your not like Hall.