Money Changes everything

[Shotties]

Include RAAF players, of which there were about 7, and a few recruits as well. You don't think this number is high?? Tell me what you would think to be a good number.

What I mean to ask by that is: do you really think a club like Usyd had that few local players in it's lower grades?

[Pekay]

Aaaah, i see your point now, wasn't sure which way you were suggesting. There wouldn't be many locals in those three clubs.

[Remember Me]

Its the nature of the beast, its business these days. Sponsors want a return for their outlay, so they get the best they can. Any club in Sydney would be mad not to recruit, given our state's status as the worst state in Australia for footy development. And for a club out this way, like East Coast, its not often a player from interstate will move out this way, not with the beaches and city life further towards town, so why shouldn't they pursue a stronger list??
From their GF winning side though, the following are products of the North-West of Sydney, some are even local Baulko players-

Ben Physick- Baulko
Dan Spiteri- Hawkesbury
Michael Johnston- Westbrook i think
Rowan Bilkey (c)- Baulko
Brad Ure- Baulko
Ryan Fitton- pretty sure he's a local, not an import, played local soccer before footy i think
Ben Rogers- Baulko

Thats a third of their team from local junior clubs, pretty good effort. Penno last year would be even more i reckon.
We had in our Senior Finals team, out of 30, 19 local juniors, and similar in reserves, and coming up against the likes of Sydney Uni, UTS and UNSW/ES, i doubt they would've had 19 between them from Sydney. It certainly didn't help us win any games though.

A third ARE you for real...You gave 5 garantees....out of 22...Dont let me start on the club then???? But hey are you telling me all sydney clubs are like that....Cause if so crap....

[Remember Me]

Having played my fair share of footy I think I am in a good position to provide comment on the old "MONEY" topic. Albeit slightly biased I feel it is still a valid opinion.

From my inside knowledge the following is correct on the premisership list from Saturday.

Local Players: (my definition of locals are blokes who played at U18 level)
Ben Physick
Rowan Bilkey
Jack Dimmery
Daniel Spiteri
Brad Ure
Ryan Fitton
Ben Rogers
Michael Johnston

Players who moved from interstate and were mates of players playing at ECE at the time:
Jon Vlatko - played footy with Ben Physick in SA
Ryan Smyth - played with Vlatko
Kristian Pearson - played with Smyth
Aaron Byerlee - played against Ben Physick and mates outside footy
Michael Sankey - I went to School with Jason Coulloupas

Coach & Players who followed the coach:
Glenn Garner
Ben Bourke
Mark Maher
Mark Skuse
Ed Wilson (played with Garner at St.George)

Coming from Victoria following the coach is very common. Players generally follow the coach because they believe they get the best out of themselves under him or they are not happy that he left and or with his replacement. They may also go because he is coaching a better club and they may be a better chance to play in a GF.

Congratulations to UNI on a fantastic year. They are a great bunch of blokes on and off the ground and to make the GF after getting pumped by 19 goals in the 1st final was a massive effort. A special mention to my mate Loopy. Wish you were still with us brother.

Some people on this forum need to get over this "money talks" crap. It's just an excuse for those who came up short. To have a crack at clubs because their players are not locals is ludicrous. How could I be local when i moved from VIC. Should I have not played because i'm not a local? Same as players from UNI who live close by and it is an easy choice??

At the end of the day we celebrated the flag like nothing else. As 22 mates who are now bonded for life. I'm proud to be an ECE premiership player. You can't buy what i won!

So your solution to Sydney football????? Those with money just keep getting better and better..Those without but are giving 100% to finding great sponcors...what miss out...And you are probably RIGHT...Cause with your attitude expect 3 clubs in the next 5 yeasr to fold.....AND QUOTE THAT!!!!

[Pekay]

A third ARE you for real...You gave 5 garantees....out of 22...Dont let me start on the club then???? But hey are you telling me all sydney clubs are like that....Cause if so crap....

Do you know anything about any of the clubs in Sydney or are you feeding off speculation? Which club are you from, or will you hide behind your username?
5 guarantees?? Fitton is a local, i checked an old footy record with an interview, Johnston is from their 18s, and i didn't include Dimery who is a Baulko junior as MS16 alluded to. So yes, i am for real, a third of their team is local, pretty good in a state league up here. And Penno would be similar if not better, St George i'd imagine the same. Whats your problem with East Coast, you seem bitter??

[michaelvettas]

i didnt realise there was soooooo much money in the league the way 'remember me' speaks.

[Doormat]

No speculation great one. of the 5 locals (3 are not real locals) 4 receive match payments to play & they pay a couple of the the 18's also.
& as for MS16 he i'm sure would get paid also.

Do you know anything about any of the clubs in Sydney or are you feeding off speculation? Which club are you from, or will you hide behind your username?
5 guarantees?? Fitton is a local, i checked an old footy record with an interview, Johnston is from their 18s, and i didn't include Dimery who is a Baulko junior as MS16 alluded to. So yes, i am for real, a third of their team is local, pretty good in a state league up here. And Penno would be similar if not better, St George i'd imagine the same. Whats your problem with East Coast, you seem bitter??

[Junior]

No speculation great one. of the 5 locals (3 are not real locals) 4 receive match payments to play & they pay a couple of the the 18's also.
& as for MS16 he i'm sure would get paid also.

Doormat, can you tell me which of the 4 receive payments and which of the U18s receive payments?

[Bert]

Wow a post from Doormat without insulting Pekay. Theres a first.... If the Eagles are the best run club with the most money, then good on them. We should all be aspiring to make our clubs better.

[GoEagles]

A third ARE you for real...You gave 5 garantees....out of 22...Dont let me start on the club then???? But hey are you telling me all sydney clubs are like that....Cause if so crap....

Its a state comp you twits as I Heart Kafalas has pointed out

How many of Springvales players in the VFL are actually from Springvale???

How many blokes from Central Districts in the SANFL are from Central Districts??

Zero.

Get over the money/recruiting thing, its beyond a joke

[Remember Me]

Its a state comp you twits as I Heart Kafalas has pointed out

How many of Springvales players in the VFL are actually from Springvale???

How many blokes from Central Districts in the SANFL are from Central Districts??

Zero.

Get over the money/recruiting thing, its beyond a joke

So it is...But from what I gather and the people I talk to in Sydney AFL...And can reference back to on your own Website...UNDER CLEARANCES..seems sydney Clubs and Coaches prefer to drag???persuade????persue???? LIE TOO??? players in other teams in the same comp....So my point is if its as state league find good players state wide....Why bother trying to FOLD a poorer club by taking there players.....Cause it is happening and THAT dosnt happen here!!!!

[GoEagles]

So it is...But from what I gather and the people I talk to in Sydney AFL...And can reference back to on your own Website...UNDER CLEARANCES..seems sydney Clubs and Coaches prefer to drag???persuade????persue???? LIE TOO??? players in other teams in the same comp....So my point is if its as state league find good players state wide....Why bother trying to FOLD a poorer club by taking there players.....Cause it is happening and THAT dosnt happen here!!!!

So you reckon this is the only state comp in Australia where players change clubs - its commonplace everywhere.

Have you ever been anywhere outside of Sydney? Doesnt seem so - leave the special comments to people who know what they are talking about champion

[tara]

Must admit im confused - who is trying to fold a poor club and who is the poor club that people seem intend on seeing the demise off?

[I_Heart_Kefalas]

I reckon you'd be lucky to name 30 players in the competition who have changed clubs.

Given this is a ten team competition with over 250 players playing, I'd reckon that's not too bad a percentage.

[Tubby Pudge]

I hear you guys down @ the seaside are close to or already have signed one Jason Cloke for next season IHK? Apparently he was a big hit @ your mad monday?!!!!

Talk about spending up big!!!

Jason Cloke doesn't come cheap!!!