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Funny thing is that when you meet them off the field they are the quietest nicest blokes youd ever meet. I played with two of them(Salem and Tommy) as well as played against Med and Eid and are great blokes off the field but white line fever takes over on it. And its not only when protecting each other they do the same for anyone wearing the same jumper as them. In saying that they do go a step further than most once the red flag comes out
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League umpires are an absolute must at all games but the sad fact is its not going to happen - the whole club umpiring thing is a joke when you have some umpires who remain impartial - some who favour the opposition teams so as to not look biased and some who are nothing more than cheats and essentially a nineteenth man.Comment
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Good point Colesy. It gets frustrating, but I'd prefer that than no game at all I suppose.
On your point Bucks, they are a top bunch of blokes off the field, but they do suffer the rabies when they step out. I'm guilty of it too,l doesn't make me proud, but it happens. But I certainly don't take it to a very high level, despite what some fools on here, some of which I've never met, ala the Peanut ex assistant coach, will have you believe.Comment
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I agree mate as i said they take it to a diff level, just wanted to make it known they have another side also. The thing these days is the umpires are so gun ho at stamping anything out and have made the game that soft that you only have too hit someone with a big shot thats legal like a bump and theyll give a free against you, so if heaven forbid someone lifts an arm or punches another player in our contact sport all hell brakes loose
The edge is not the limit, It's just the starting point...Comment
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If other clubs are concerned about playing these guys, and they cause trouble, it's fairly simple, just forfeit matches against them.
With a united front, the message is clear.
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Do they support any local junior team? ... that needs to be a pre-requisite for ANY senior team, in my opinion ... particularly a new team.
Sydney AFL is as weak as it is, because the senior teams do not nurture juniors ... should be mandatory for ALL teams.Comment
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Question?
Do they support any local junior team? ... that needs to be a pre-requisite for ANY senior team, in my opinion ... particularly a new team.
Sydney AFL is as weak as it is, because the senior teams do not nurture juniors ... should be mandatory for ALL teams.[/QUOTE]
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Unconfuseme i have to agree. As a "Johnny come lately" to the Sydney AFL scene it doesnt seem right to me that the University Clubs are allowed dominate the competions (5 of 7 flags 2009 and 15 teams between them} with most of their success coming from their ability to attract new players due to their convenient geographical advantage of being located in the City. None have any Junior programs yet are protected through the pathway programs where they take the the local under 18's as well. How the other Sydney clubs compete with is a credit to them. On top of that SU and UNSW cant get relegated. I must be missing something.
By limiting clubs to 3 senior teams, the demand will create new clubs and a fairer, more even competition from div 2 down . Like the uni blacks and uni blues model in melbourne. Blacks home one week and blues the next will sort out ground issues. And all clubs should have "hands on" junior (10-16 yo}programs...Comment
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Unconfuseme i have to agree. As a "Johnny come lately" to the Sydney AFL scene it doesnt seem right to me that the University Clubs are allowed dominate the competions (5 of 7 flags 2009 and 15 teams between them} with most of their success coming from their ability to attract new players due to their convenient geographical advantage of being located in the City. None have any Junior programs yet are protected through the pathway programs where they take the the local under 18's as well. How the other Sydney clubs compete with is a credit to them. On top of that SU and UNSW cant get relegated. I must be missing something.
By limiting clubs to 3 senior teams, the demand will create new clubs and a fairer, more even competition from div 2 down . Like the uni blacks and uni blues model in melbourne. Blacks home one week and blues the next will sort out ground issues. And all clubs should have "hands on" junior (10-16 yo}programs...[/QUOTE]
I'm not a fan of any uni, and I don't really want to go into bat for them, but you have to credit Mac Uni over the past few years, they have aligned themselves with Westbrook juniors and Pennant Hills seniors, effectively underwriting their future local recruiting. These things take a hell of alot of work to put in place, and will only pay dividends in the future.
Moorebank are another, I recognise the hard yards Colesy, Ian and the team down there have put in, since 2006 where the club was on its knees, to setting up junior affiliations with local clubs and having an increasingly competitive 18s team, whilst slowly but surely going from Defence Force reliance to the point where the Army element actually supplements their list. We have gone a similar way, where if we were to have a deployment of the magnitude of 2004, where we lost in excess of 70 players at the end of the year, almost crushing the club into extinction, we would be able to sustain the loss with local players, all this without an 18s system that hasn't been in effect since 2003. Once we can shore up our junior ties with Quakers Hill, Hawkesbury & to a lesser extent (But equally important-and I realise they aren't in our pathway, but they still have plenty of contact within our club) Blue Mountains, our future in whatever divisions we compete in will be assured.Comment
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I'm not a fan of any uni, and I don't really want to go into bat for them, but you have to credit Mac Uni over the past few years, they have aligned themselves with Westbrook juniors and Pennant Hills seniors, effectively underwriting their future local recruiting. These things take a hell of alot of work to put in place, and will only pay dividends in the future.
Moorebank are another, I recognise the hard yards Colesy, Ian and the team down there have put in, since 2006 where the club was on its knees, to setting up junior affiliations with local clubs and having an increasingly competitive 18s team, whilst slowly but surely going from Defence Force reliance to the point where the Army element actually supplements their list. We have gone a similar way, where if we were to have a deployment of the magnitude of 2004, where we lost in excess of 70 players at the end of the year, almost crushing the club into extinction, we would be able to sustain the loss with local players, all this without an 18s system that hasn't been in effect since 2003. Once we can shore up our junior ties with Quakers Hill, Hawkesbury & to a lesser extent (But equally important-and I realise they aren't in our pathway, but they still have plenty of contact within our club) Blue Mountains, our future in whatever divisions we compete in will be assured.
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Pekay, i concede on your Mac uni point ..but cant see the connection or relevance of Moorebank and Norwest to Uni argument..but thats fine..
As i said i am an johnny come lately
Anyway it looks like a big year ahead.Comment
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Read above post by Uconfuseme. Moorebank have been to hell and back as a club over the last four or so years, as has my club (NWJ) but with the right structures and the right people in place, we have worked our way back to being a competitive unit on and off the field. I hate to refer back to 2009 as it's a year I wish to forget for many reasons, all related to football, but we managed to run third in the Bob McConnell Trophy (Or the club championship, however I'm a traditionalist) to powerhouse clubs UTS (4 teams) & East Coast (5 teams) a feat we are very proud of, having only Senior & Reserves.
As a Johnny Come Lately to Sydney Footy, you won't realise the reliance both Nor-West (and formerly Hawkesbury) and Moorebank (Formerly South West Sydney) have had on the local Defence Force Bases of RAAF Richmond and Holsworthy for players. One week you'd have a world beating team on the park, the next, struggling for numbers. Band-aid solutions were provided, but as we all know, band-aids don't heal open wounds do they? So people with foresight, and a vision beyond the follwoing year, put these structures in place to ensure future survival.
Penriff are lucky to have such a good 18s structure in place, solid juniors in their direct catchment, and this should translate into a much more successful (I was going to use competitive, but they always have a red hot go out on the field) senior branch in coming years, provided the 18s stick around to play seniors, which, over the past few years, they have (Corless, Lockhart, Keane to name a few)
Not sure where you are from, but the outer western suburbs clubs (Nor-West, Penriff, Moorebank, to a lesser extent Parramatta) haven't been able to rely on keeping the front door open for recruits like the inner city clubs like UTS, Uni NSW/ES, or the coastal teams of Cronulla & Manly, so junior development out here is imperative. We are lucky to have so many locals in our team, and of the 50 odd players that played finals for us, at least 30, upwards of 35 are local products from Hawkesbury or Blacktown.
Will your username reflect the club you choose to play for?Comment
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No not related.. Goanna name taken after a late billionaire.
recently landed in sydney and yes located east but few choices outside Uni clubs..will probably join one of the two new clubs for a kick.
So wondering if Auburn have web site? Saints the other.Comment
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Goanna Im assuming you are aligned with Parra?
From what I know Auburn will be working closely with the local juniors at Auburn with a view to growing the club and the code in the area.
AS far as peoples concerns about the Kassems give them the benefit of the doubt - im sure they know all eyes will be on them and will want to put up a good face - some clubs will no doubt bait them like happens with us but if they get a respone then they really are at fault.
As far as the unis go well good luck to them - limiting the number of teams they have is not the answer - I can tell you now that Im hoping in ten years we have teams from div one to div four as well as our 18's - I certainly wouldnt want to see restrictions put into place that may see players lost to the game.Comment
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No not related.. Goanna name taken after a late billionaire.
recently landed in sydney and yes located east but few choices outside Uni clubs..will probably join one of the two new clubs for a kick.
So wondering if Auburn have web site? Saints the other.[/QUOTE]
Auburn doesnt Randwick does - check out the Sydney AFL website SportingPulse Homepage for Sydney AFL for links to all clubs. If you dont mind travelling Ill always welcome new players at Moorebank.Comment
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