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  • ShortHalfHead
    Senior Player
    • Dec 2008
    • 1024

    #46
    A few things posted by "the student" last year re Sydney Uni 18's

    Last post on this from me - just to clear the scholarship thing up - SU Sport provide a limited number of scholarships for student athletes for each sport. About half a dozen are allotted to SUANFC - I don't know how many are afforded to rugby but it is probably about 10 times that number! They are worth anywhere between $1000 and $4000 and can be put toward HECS, textbooks etc. As for free UAI points, that is a complete untruth - however if a student athlete is near to a UAI cut-off point for course entry they will be considered

    No uni scholarships, eh. I guess the student just made it up. Can you have a chat to him, Shotties, and set him right


    Unfortunately I wasn't privy to the meeting with the AFL about our Colts team - it is disappointing for the club, however, our intention was to create an Under 18s team and we have achieved that goal thanks to the stellar work carried out by our President - who is an absolute genius - and several hardworking members of our committee. We don't really care what other clubs do or say - we are just happy to be able to provide a place for people to come and play footy

    As you can see, plenty of "not so talented" unlisted players available who Sydney Uni can approach to provide them a place to just play footy, any guesses on how many will be approached?

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    • Shotties
      Warming the Bench
      • May 2009
      • 153

      #47
      Mmm, a real shame you couldn't have just answered my PM as I requested earlier and instead decided to post here and further derail the thread.

      PM returned, though I don't know why I'm bothering since I never said SU players couldn't get scholarships nor did I say that Uni players weren't considered for extra UAI points, simply that they didn't receive it solely on the basis of playing for the club.

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      • Pace To Burn
        On the Rookie List
        • Jul 2007
        • 748

        #48
        Originally posted by Shotties
        Mmm, a real shame you couldn't have just answered my PM as I requested earlier and instead decided to post here and further derail the thread.

        PM returned, though I don't know why I'm bothering since I never said SU players couldn't get scholarships nor did I say that Uni players weren't considered for extra UAI points, simply that they didn't receive it solely on the basis of playing for the club.
        Are you that dumb. You just said they were considered for extra UAI points, why else would they be given extra points other than to get them to Syd Uni and playing for you. If you wernt telling admissions we want this kid here help him out he wouldnt get the extra points. Seriously knob quit while your behind and make yourself out to be a bigger muppet than you already have
        The edge is not the limit, It's just the starting point...

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        • Shotties
          Warming the Bench
          • May 2009
          • 153

          #49
          Originally posted by Pace To Burn
          Are you that dumb. You just said they were considered for extra UAI points, why else would they be given extra points other than to get them to Syd Uni and playing for you.
          I said they COULD be considered for extra UAI points if they fell a hair short of the admission. They'd have to apply to their paticular school and make an academic and extra curricular case just like any other student who applies for a scholarship. If they were more then a few points short or all they had to fall back on was playing for the club they'd be in trouble.

          You're more than welcome to peruse the admissions page and you'll find that the max allowable allocation is 5 points, though it's considerably less for any competitive course and some courses don't allow ATAR concessions at all.

          If you wernt telling admissions we want this kid here help him out he wouldnt get the extra points.
          Mmm, yep. That's exactly how it happens. Usyd admissions take their cues from one of the smallest football clubs they have.

          Though I'm curious to know, which of our players got a UAI boost as described on this site based only on the fact he played for the club. You'd be able to back this up of course.
          Seriously knob quit while your behind and make yourself out to be a bigger muppet than you already have
          Disagree with what I have to say all you want but at least respond without remarks like this. Adds nothing.
          Last edited by Shotties; 10 January 2010, 09:30 PM. Reason: Added extra

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          • Pekay
            Well retired, still sore
            • Sep 2004
            • 2134

            #50
            Originally posted by tara

            From what I know Auburn will be working closely with the local juniors at Auburn with a view to growing the club and the code in the area.

            AS far as peoples concerns about the Kassems give them the benefit of the doubt - im sure they know all eyes will be on them and will want to put up a good face - some clubs will no doubt bait them like happens with us but if they get a respone then they really are at fault.
            Do they have local juniors at Auburn? At what level- I'm assuming Auskick at minimum?

            And you're right, they should be given benefit of doubt, but mud does stick. I am looking forward to seeing two new teams on the landscape this year, good for the game.

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            • mountainsofpain
              Warming the Bench
              • Apr 2008
              • 266

              #51
              Originally posted by Pekay
              Do they have local juniors at Auburn? At what level- I'm assuming Auskick at minimum?

              And you're right, they should be given benefit of doubt, but mud does stick. I am looking forward to seeing two new teams on the landscape this year, good for the game.
              You would hope that the Auburn side is being put together with long term plans in mind, which is why working with the local community and juniors would be important.

              If it is just a vehicle for a bunch of mates or family members to play together, then sustainability may be a bit harder. This club has already folded once (exactly when or why I can't remember), you wouldn't want it to happen again after going to the trouble of re-forming.

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              • tara
                Senior Player
                • Aug 2005
                • 1514

                #52
                Mountain my understanding is that they contacted all the senior clubs incl our withing their region and asked if they had any objections to them forming - again from my limited understanding is there are juniors and they are doing this with a view to the long term - good on 'em I say - whilst we all may be opponents Im sure we all have one common view and that is growing the game is good for all of us.

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                • Rafters
                  aka Mr Taxman
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 441

                  #53
                  Originally posted by mountainsofpain
                  You would hope that the Auburn side is being put together with long term plans in mind, which is why working with the local community and juniors would be important.

                  If it is just a vehicle for a bunch of mates or family members to play together, then sustainability may be a bit harder. This club has already folded once (exactly when or why I can't remember), you wouldn't want it to happen again after going to the trouble of re-forming.
                  The last time that the senior club existed was in 1991 - largely due to the fact that about 15 of us had followed the "pathway" to Premier League in the preceding 2 years. And the junior club largely ended when a wonderful lady called Mrs Coutts died from cancer as she was the backbone after a few fathers had followed their sons to Parra. There was also a club back in 1965/66 as well.

                  If the club doesn't work then so what? The key is that a club is being given a chance to develop & introduce the code to a number of people that otherwise wouldn't have the opportunity. It has proven to be a fertile area in the past - just needs a chance to grow again.
                  See me run a marathon again as a leprechaun?

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                  • tara
                    Senior Player
                    • Aug 2005
                    • 1514

                    #54
                    Rafters given the location of Mona Park their will be plenty of locals who get to see the games - that alone should hopefully drum up interest amongst the lcoal community - its a great looking place for footy.

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                    • mountainsofpain
                      Warming the Bench
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 266

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Rafters
                      The last time that the senior club existed was in 1991 - largely due to the fact that about 15 of us had followed the "pathway" to Premier League in the preceding 2 years. And the junior club largely ended when a wonderful lady called Mrs Coutts died from cancer as she was the backbone after a few fathers had followed their sons to Parra. There was also a club back in 1965/66 as well.
                      Thanks for that info.

                      Originally posted by Rafters
                      If the club doesn't work then so what? The key is that a club is being given a chance to develop & introduce the code to a number of people that otherwise wouldn't have the opportunity. It has proven to be a fertile area in the past - just needs a chance to grow again.
                      I'll rephrase. It would be a shame if the club didn't work this time around. Too many senior clubs have disappeared over the years in Sydney and for the good of the senior game I hope that any new or re-formed clubs don't suffer the same fate.

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                      • Rafters
                        aka Mr Taxman
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 441

                        #56
                        Originally posted by mountainsofpain
                        Thanks for that info.


                        I'll rephrase. It would be a shame if the club didn't work this time around. Too many senior clubs have disappeared over the years in Sydney and for the good of the senior game I hope that any new or re-formed clubs don't suffer the same fate.
                        Give them a chance first before writing them off.
                        See me run a marathon again as a leprechaun?

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                        • Rafters
                          aka Mr Taxman
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 441

                          #57
                          Originally posted by tara
                          Rafters given the location of Mona Park their will be plenty of locals who get to see the games - that alone should hopefully drum up interest amongst the lcoal community - its a great looking place for footy.
                          Will get me to the game as only a stone's throw away - I also introduced them to their first sponsor yesterday who are quite interested.
                          See me run a marathon again as a leprechaun?

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                          • mountainsofpain
                            Warming the Bench
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 266

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Rafters
                            Give them a chance first before writing them off.
                            More than happy to.

                            And I wasn't writing them off, simply saying that sustainability could possibly be a problem in certain circumstances.

                            But it looks like the necessary planning and work is going into the club, which is great.
                            Last edited by mountainsofpain; 16 January 2010, 03:48 PM.

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