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  • unconfuseme
    Regular in the Side
    • Jan 2009
    • 681

    #31
    Not an easy weekend for 18's ... a lot of them are on school hols, as are the 16's who might potentially fill in!

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    • mountainsofpain
      Warming the Bench
      • Apr 2008
      • 266

      #32
      Wollongong appears to have forfeited its Ressies (Div 1) this weekend. Not good.

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      • Prince
        On the Rookie List
        • Jun 2004
        • 29

        #33
        Correct... Gong had 13 players and could not get enough South Coast FL match day permits to ensure full team.

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        • ShortHalfHead
          Senior Player
          • Dec 2008
          • 1024

          #34
          Quote of the Week:

          We are better off forfeiting against you, it will be better for our percentages"

          -Anon

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          • ShortHalfHead
            Senior Player
            • Dec 2008
            • 1024

            #35
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            Last edited by ShortHalfHead; 26 July 2010, 03:58 PM.

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            • nugget
              On the Rookie List
              • Feb 2004
              • 72

              #36
              Originally posted by ShortHalfHead
              Quote of the Week:

              We are better off forfeiting against you, it will be better for our percentages"

              -Anon
              Can't believe you had another forfeit again.

              And it didn't help them anyway as they are on the bottom anyway after forfeiting. If I'm reading your post correctly.
              Last edited by nugget; 26 July 2010, 06:30 PM.

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              • DLH
                Warming the Bench
                • Jun 2004
                • 378

                #37
                Originally posted by nugget
                Can't believe you had another forfeit again.

                And it didn't help them anyway as they are on the bottom anyway after forfeiting. If I'm reading your post correctly.
                Yep, this competition is beyond a joke quite frankly, in the last year and two-thirds our U/18's have been forfeited against seven times.

                Apparently the MU boys are going to win 8 of their last 4 and hope other results go their way.......

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                • Hawknik
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 186

                  #38
                  Originally posted by DLH
                  Apparently the MU boys are going to win 8 of their last 4 and hope other results go their way.......
                  ????

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                  • tara
                    Senior Player
                    • Aug 2005
                    • 1514

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Hawknik
                    ????
                    Someone at your end told someone at Penrith that them forfieting was better as their percetage wouldnt be smashed as much as them playing - must admit will be interested to see who we play when our kids meet yours in a few weeks given exactly 50% of your team was PD kids with Penno.

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                    • Mug Punter
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                      • Nov 2009
                      • 3325

                      #40
                      Originally posted by tara
                      Someone at your end told someone at Penrith that them forfieting was better as their percetage wouldnt be smashed as much as them playing - must admit will be interested to see who we play when our kids meet yours in a few weeks given exactly 50% of your team was PD kids with Penno.
                      For all Mac Uni's Pres coming on here earlier in the season blowing his own trumpet, this whole pathway development caper seems to have been a complete failure from their point of view. They'd be a lot better standing and possibly falling on their own two feet than relying on Penno to help them out. It's the same old story, lots of hot air and good intentions but at the end of the day these local JVs or alliances just do not work.

                      The state of U18 football is a terrible indictment on the game's position in Sydney. Don't know what the solution is but this bureaucratic model that creates huge work just so a handful of kids can't better themselves by going to one of the few clubs that have a decent program in place is pure craziness. My mail is that it is illegal anyway and I believe that Sydney Uni are keeping a legal challenge up their sleeve should commonsense not prevail.

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                      • DLH
                        Warming the Bench
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 378

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Mug Punter
                        Don't know what the solution is but this bureaucratic model that creates huge work just so a handful of kids can't better themselves by going to one of the few clubs that have a decent program in place is pure craziness. My mail is that it is illegal anyway and I believe that Sydney Uni are keeping a legal challenge up their sleeve should commonsense not prevail.
                        Sydney Uni are on top of Premier Division, have teams in every grade plus plenty of others who probably can't even get a game.

                        Clearly given their facilities, resources and old boys networks they don't have any problem attracting high quality footballers to their club, yet you're suggesting they'd be happy to take legal action in order to be able to poach the best juniors from clubs such as mine who due to geography have basically no ready made players walk through its doors and can't really hope to attract them?

                        I know this will continue to go around in circles but I just find that ridiculous.

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                        • Pekay
                          Well retired, still sore
                          • Sep 2004
                          • 2134

                          #42
                          Originally posted by DLH
                          Sydney Uni are on top of Premier Division, have teams in every grade plus plenty of others who probably can't even get a game.

                          Clearly given their facilities, resources and old boys networks they don't have any problem attracting high quality footballers to their club, yet you're suggesting they'd be happy to take legal action in order to be able to poach the best juniors from clubs such as mine who due to geography have basically no ready made players walk through its doors and can't really hope to attract them?

                          I know this will continue to go around in circles but I just find that ridiculous.
                          You either side with Collingwood or feel their thumb go clean up your khyber pass. Thats how it is in the big league!

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                          • Roscoe
                            Warming the Bench
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 458

                            #43
                            Mug Punter

                            You saying that the Joint Venture allainces (JV) do not work is just rubbish

                            It will not always be perfect but the Penno/Mac Uni model has been adopted by Saints in their

                            JV with Southern Power and Moorebank. It has worked well during the course of the season for the 3

                            clubs involved. Over the past 3 weeks Saints 18's have had players playing in the seniors and also

                            with injuries and School holidays have been unable to help out their CC associates, but hopefully

                            over the remainder of the season any saints 18's who aren't chosen for St George will get a game

                            for Power and Moorebank if the numbers are there
                            September 24th, 2005 5.14pm
                            What a great moment in all of our lives

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                            • Mug Punter
                              On the Rookie List
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 3325

                              #44
                              Originally posted by DLH
                              Sydney Uni are on top of Premier Division, have teams in every grade plus plenty of others who probably can't even get a game.

                              Clearly given their facilities, resources and old boys networks they don't have any problem attracting high quality footballers to their club, yet you're suggesting they'd be happy to take legal action in order to be able to poach the best juniors from clubs such as mine who due to geography have basically no ready made players walk through its doors and can't really hope to attract them?

                              I know this will continue to go around in circles but I just find that ridiculous.
                              What I find ridiculous is that 16 year old kids are told which senior clubs they can and cannot play for. Unless they were a student at Syndey Uni I couldn't see a Penrith kid going and playing at Sydney Uni anyway.

                              Still, IF a kid did want to go there because they have a couple of the best junior coaches in the state (Barling and Carter) and a professional set up backed by Australia's biggest club (Collingwood) then I say why not let him go there. Why force him to stay out at a club like Balmain that run their club like a three ring circus and fold their U18 program mid-season?

                              Instead we butcher the most progressive U18 set up in the state which potentially stifles player development. Other clubs should concentrate on getting their own houses in order (as you clearly are out there) rather than stifling the ambition of other clubs.

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                              • Mug Punter
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                                • Nov 2009
                                • 3325

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Roscoe
                                Mug Punter

                                You saying that the Joint Venture allainces (JV) do not work is just rubbish

                                It will not always be perfect but the Penno/Mac Uni model has been adopted by Saints in their

                                JV with Southern Power and Moorebank. It has worked well during the course of the season for the 3

                                clubs involved. Over the past 3 weeks Saints 18's have had players playing in the seniors and also

                                with injuries and School holidays have been unable to help out their CC associates, but hopefully

                                over the remainder of the season any saints 18's who aren't chosen for St George will get a game

                                for Power and Moorebank if the numbers are there
                                It may well be working for you but it sure aint working for the Kookas.

                                It certainly is a system that clearly favours the SFL club over the SFA club, it's a very patronising set up in terms of how you view Moorebank and Sutherland, surely they shouldn't have to rely on handouts fom you to get a side on the field every week. Yours seems to working well from the sound of it in the short term but I don't think it is any co-incidence that the best club in the U18 second Div is a stand alone club.

                                Question for you. Moorebank have a young kid who is absolutely braining it but just wants to play with his mates out there. What do you do? You put him on yor list and get him to play with Saints or you get in his ear and poach him. How can that be in the interests of your junior partners. Why don't you just bite the bullet and put two U18s teams on he paddock like ECE?

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