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lol who the hell is going to pay to watch syd uni and baulko play on a friday night? I'd rather watch paint dry.
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To be honest I have no idea what the salary caps are but I know that we spend nowhere near $300k on player payments. We don't have that sort of money - an Aspley or Southport though, they have clubs with pokies and dedicate some of that profit to footy. As do some of the ACT clubs I guess. Yes we are part of SUSF and get some money from the AFL but we have nowhere near the capacity of those clubs to raise that sort of cash. Sponsors are difficult to attract, and we obviously don't get any gate takings or the like. But on the other hand we have access to off-field facilities that the other clubs would be jealous of.
I think the other thing that hasn't been mentioned is that the number of Qld teams got chopped in half so I'd imagine Aspley and Redlands got a few more NEAFL quality players in from Morningside and Mount Gravatt.
Anyway, we'll keep plugging away - if we can finish ahead of the ACT teams and Hills I think we'd be happy with that.Comment
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How many people do the swans ressies get? 300? How many would go for a warm up for the swans ressies? lol.
I'm not really anti NEAFL. I'm hardly involved in sydney afl, played about 30 games over the past 4 years so have nothing against either club, I'm just realistic about the interest by the general public (and most other sydney clubs).Comment
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$300k is what the AFL funds the teams to enable them to compete ... I'm pretty sure the players do not get a lot of that.
It's not a matter of bagging the NEAFL concept - a second tier comp that is better than SAFL is a necessity for the games development in Sydney, likewise for South Queensland, as well as being needed by the 4 AFL franchises ...
It would not have been difficult to cover those needs when designing the concept. But, instead, it was hastily thrown together, as if the decision had been made that afternoon.
So please do not back slap the lightweight yes men who decided on the structure ... they got it wrong, and they continue to get it wrong, and do nothing about it.
It has nothing to do with scheduling games, although they have NFI about that either.
It really is not that hard.
There should be 2 Sydney teams, they should feed from the Swans and GWS zones, they should be age limited (say maximum of 6 players over 23 yo on each list). They would be picking up the overflow of the 2 academies, the 18 and 19 yo's who miss out in the draft, and provide them with another realistic alternative for development and showcasing their talents ... rather than going to WAFL, SANFL or VFL, which they do now. The teams would naturally generate interest, as they would be RELEVANT AND REPRESENTATIVE of ALL OF SYDNEY.
It wouldn't matter if the 2 teams were East Coast Eagles and Sydney Uni or Manly and Wests or Auburn and Penrith ... the original stupid decision to have 2 elite teams drawn from existing SAFL clubs (which was simply a short cut) immediately alienates people who are NOT aligned them. Everyone else in Sydney has their allegiance to one of the other 20+ Sydney clubs, and simply do not give a rats ass about the NEAFL teams or games ... and they are avoiding them in droves.
But hey, lets just do it all exactly the same next year and see if anything changes!!! ... and while we are at it, we will let Manly call themselves Giants ... idiots.
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You have a point, I'd be more inclined to head along to a NEAFL game if it was a Sydney team rather than an existing club. I live 5 minutes from Purser and couldn't care less about what's being played there, and I love local footy! NEAFL results get a cursory glance on a Monday, nothing more from me.Comment
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Come down and have a look Pekay and you may just get an insight of what it's all about in the NEAFL. It wont hurt you to step outside your comfort zone and at least come away with an informed opinion rather than an emotive one.
In fact the Eagles this year are starting to attract more interest from the locals at Home Games with a strong contingent of support coming from the Kellyville / Rouse Hill JFC. Plenty of family's are now making a day of it on the hill with their kids able to watch good local football. Lucky for us that they continue coming regardless of the on-field results.
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Perhaps if it didn't clash with my own club commitments I would, but I've enough on my plate on Saturdays.Comment
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It is an urban myth that ostriches stick their head in the sand when they are confronted ... when in fact it is well recognised as the standard reaction of AFL administrators in Sydney.
Really Tim? ... the locals are now starting to come? ... anyone figure out why? ... wonder how many families there are from all over Greater Western Sydney, with kids playing junior AFL, who DO NOT give a rats about Baulko Football Club at any level, and never will? ... and accordingly will never have an interest in NEAFL.
Hazard a guess and say they outnumber the Kellyville/Rouse Hill diehards by thousands to one.
... and that simply validates my point, as supported by Pekay ... the locals will only support a team that is REPRESENTATIVE OF THEMSELVES, and DOESN'T INTERFERE WITH THEIR OWN COMMITMENTS.
Let's take it to another level ... if the Swans or GWS match clashes with your u/12's club game, what do you do? ... pretty simple isn't it!
However, if that NEAFL team happens to be representative of THE WHOLE GWS ZONE, and is "shared" amongst those stakeholders, by scheduling games at various GWS clubs during the course of the season, either as a curtain raiser to the club's seniors game, or as the main event, then those days can be promoted to their local junior clubs and community, as "events" by the clubs!
... imagine the GWS Zone Squad (we will run a contest for a name - no one from the AFL gets to decide!) v Swans Reverves as the 6pm game under lights at Rosedale next week after Moorebank v Blacktown ... omg, tara would have a crowd of a couple of thousand given a few months to organise it!!! ... there would be jumping castles, kids everywhere, standing room only, even I would go to that and pay for a VB and a pie ... hell I would hire a corporate box!
If you did that and simply planned it, who knows, you might even end up with families and juniors from Camden, Campbelltown, Penrith, Liverpool, Parramatta, Blue Mountains, etc ... maybe even Manly! who will not only attend NEAFL matches sparingly, and maybe even develop a passing interest, but also galvanise them to their local SAFL Club ... god forbid!!!
... did I forgot to mention Bankstown ... sorry, that's right, there is no AFL in Bankstown ...
The situation from the perspective of Sydney Uni and the Swan's Zone is far worse and much more of a concern, as the junior and family numbers who are spurning it are 20 times that of GWS ... but who cares so long as there is a second Sydney AFL Franchise up and running and everyone is getting paid for doing there job.
Sydney AFL admin. - Exclusive, short sighted, insular, amateurs ... that's how you will build it ... NOT!
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Correct Unconfuseme
Sydney Hills should be a one team club and Baulko should be a Sydney AFL club.
All Seniors and junior clubs under the pathway should have a stake in SHills. Rotate catering and hosting rights between the pathway clubs similar to the SAFL finals system.
A Swans aligned Sydney Central team should be a one team club .
(St G, UNSW UTS Syd Uni , Wests , Mac Uni ,Balmain, Power, Randwick North Shore and Manly plus all the junior clubs which feed into them )
Sydney Uni being a SFL club only.
A compulsory membership fee per player from all patheay Auskick, Junior and Senior player registrations should be pushed to the Neafl rep team to assist funding. This would instantly give the peak team a genuine membership base in the thousands to market to .
And give thousands of AFL fans in Sydney some ownership in a NEAFL team to follow and perhaps aspire to play for.Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Albert EinsteinComment
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I had the impression that the grant to the NEAFL teams in the first year was less than $100k. Has this since spiralled? I know the AFL realise that Sydney footy at this level will never be self sufficient and always require a direct injection of funds. $300k sounds excessive though.Comment
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The day that the Swans appeared north of the border was the day that the local Sydney footy comp took a massive negative hit. It took over 20 years for Sydneysiders to embrace this team as their own rather than be South Melbourne with a name change.
29 years later the local comp has taken another negative hit. Any top young player has the opportunity to outclass an opposition Swan or Giant reserve grader in front of an AFL coaching panel. Why wouldn't all the good young players join SU or SH? But will the local clubs ever embrace the competition or the promoted local teams. Unlikely.....but maybe in another 20 years.Comment
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Does it really matter if it's $3 or $3 million dollars, if the model is wrong? ... it's just pi$$ed up against the wall anyway!Comment
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