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  • 5yearplan
    Warming the Bench
    • Sep 2016
    • 272

    #46
    At fiddler all time, you clearly have no idea and ur post is so wrong.

    Donny as you call him don’t know him, probably do but not by namesake but as he said couldn’t Corless either

    Everyone’s well known facts is so wrong I would be careful though mentioning names false figures though the people you named no longer in the club may have a view to take further. Whilst it wasn’t ideal what occurred the numbers floated are nuts. No club as I stated would take that debt on. Your a idiot to think otherwise

    20 year payment plan again idiot comment. Call council there is a 10 year option only just signed off. Was a ten year term licence agreement which is paid.

    If the club was so bad. Why would a council support a submission to prems women.... did yours???

    Council would vouch for the club.

    Sponsors they don’t cover debt you will find we are well supported yes but it is relationships.

    Look at your own backyard get facts right and be careful on names you slander minus wrong information.

    Whilst the name you mention is not involved I would support him coming back at you or others with false stories of what has occurred!

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    • Don the Sash
      Registered User
      • Dec 2018
      • 6

      #47
      Well 5year plan, it seems SHH is passionate but not as knowledgable as he dreams about. Maybe he could learn more from the BIG clubs east of the Blue Mountains

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      • ShortHalfHead
        Senior Player
        • Dec 2008
        • 1024

        #48
        Originally posted by 5yearplan
        At fiddler all time, you clearly have no idea and ur post is so wrong.

        Donny as you call him don’t know him, probably do but not by namesake but as he said couldn’t Corless either

        Everyone’s well known facts is so wrong I would be careful though mentioning names false figures though the people you named no longer in the club may have a view to take further. Whilst it wasn’t ideal what occurred the numbers floated are nuts. No club as I stated would take that debt on. Your a idiot to think otherwise

        20 year payment plan again idiot comment. Call council there is a 10 year option only just signed off. Was a ten year term licence agreement which is paid.

        If the club was so bad. Why would a council support a submission to prems women.... did yours???

        Council would vouch for the club.

        Sponsors they don’t cover debt you will find we are well supported yes but it is relationships.

        Look at your own backyard get facts right and be careful on names you slander minus wrong information.

        Whilst the name you mention is not involved I would support him coming back at you or others with false stories of what has occurred!
        I wont comment on your level, or lack of intelligence, we are only given what we get in that regards. You do really need to work on your grammar though. "You don't know Donny but you probably do." Nice work. "But he said couldn't Corless either" And as for slander...i can only laugh heartily. You seem to be very involved with Sydney AFL. Another employee maybe as you claim that some clubs don't pay affiliation fees and most are late. That would be fairly confidential. Hopefully you can give us more inside information as time progresses. I have already made a formal complaint about an Eagles member/ AFL employee who has contacted our players and given them a bum steer. Re the 20 year payment plan, please tell me the facts instead of name calling. Purser was opened 10 years ago. The deal, I believe, was a 20 year commitment from Cricket, AFL (who threw in good coin) and the council. Are you saying that there is no ongoing debt. If not, great work, paid it off early. We are having renovations done at Greygums. A million bucks worth with funding from federal, state and local government as well as good delf funding by the senior and junior club. At this stage, the AFL has contributed zilch, despite some promises a few years ago. As for your stunning revelation that the council is supporting female football, that is wonderful, though you would be hard pressed to find a council anywhere in Australia that doesn't support it. Give me the heads up if you know of any. Anyhow, I guess you would deny, in between logging on and off with your numerous nics the following statements by East Coast ""As Jon Gawley says in the Financial report on page 8, we are now very well positioned to steam ahead. Long term
        debt will be an issue for the club for another eight years, but thanks to the Fighting Fund contributors we are
        managing the repayment process"
        "The Fighting Fund also continues to be well supported which is allowing the club
        to continue to meet its long term debt is a major help to the club and it is still required each year to ensure we can self
        support the debt owed and run the club separately."

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        • ShortHalfHead
          Senior Player
          • Dec 2008
          • 1024

          #49
          Originally posted by Don the Sash
          Well 5year plan, it seems SHH is passionate but not as knowledgable as he dreams about. Maybe he could learn more from the BIG clubs east of the Blue Mountains
          Geography Lesson for the Evening. Penrith is East of the Blue Mountains. On the other side, it is west. And it is spelt k-n-o-w-l-e-d-g-e-a-b-l-e so a bonus Englisg lesson thrown in. Always happy to help out the strugglers.

          Still awaiting your pathway and development thesis with eagerness.

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          • Don the Sash
            Registered User
            • Dec 2018
            • 6

            #50
            Thanks SHH. I can see why some decisions may have been made. Worry about the ants while the elephants get a way.
            I have no thesis. Just network for the better of the game and the community. We all do that in our own minds.

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            • saviour01
              Regular in the Side
              • Sep 2013
              • 932

              #51
              Originally posted by Tim Freedman
              Saviour, I think you're confused with what club owes the league plenty of money. I know you are only new to the scene of AFL, so I will go over it again for you and hopefully it will sink in. Your club owes the league plenty from refusing to pay affiliation fees for many many years. I know you like to stick your head in the sand and your club will always deny it but every other club in the league knows it and every club wanted your club booted because of it. It was simply swept under the carpet by the league and your club have acted like sergeant Schultz ever since. #glasshouses
              So your saying i cant comment on something due to something that happened 10+ years ago, had nothing to do with me and nothing to do with anyone currently at the club.

              Weird set of standards you hold me too. What next, I'm a racist because I live in Australia and Australia had a White Australia polixy once upon a time.

              You cant hold someone accountable for something they had nothing to do with.

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              • ShortHalfHead
                Senior Player
                • Dec 2008
                • 1024

                #52
                Originally posted by 5yearplan

                Tims comment is right, and 450k please any club if the debt was that huge.... would fold wind up no board or anyone would jump in and take it on.

                There are a lot more posts on here with complete garbage, false facts which come out all the time.
                Don't really care what goes on at the nest, but seem to have a far better idea (and naturally unbiased) than Tim and 5year

                Even your own club has publicly admitted that they were deep in debt. When Seebeck got the boot, the first annual report of the new mob stated they were seeking $150k to cover 37% of their debt. OK, doesn't get to $450k, but pretty damn close to it. So by your own admission, the current board is crackers for taking on this debt. Happy for you to correct me if the board lied to their members in the Annual report

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                • saviour01
                  Regular in the Side
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 932

                  #53
                  True. We better get our figures right. 400k of debt according to their own financial reports.

                  Lots of mentions of the fighting fund. Over 20 people named who had to dip in to pay off year 1 of the 10 year commercial loan. http://eastcoasteagles.com.au/wp-con...Book-Final.pdf

                  2016 again lots of mentions. Another 20 people named, people shaving their beards. Collection plate for loose change at the canteen to help pay off the debt. http://eastcoasteagles.com.au/wp-con...Book-Final.pdf

                  No wonder you hate all mentions of it Tim. People having to dip into their own pockets, shaving beards (isn't this usually done for charity?) and begging for spare change when selling sausage sangas. Must be feeling a tad guilty. No 2017 or 2018 year book? Wonder what ways they will come up with next to pay off a 10 year 400k debt.

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                  • Tim Freedman
                    Warming the Bench
                    • May 2008
                    • 236

                    #54
                    Originally posted by saviour01
                    No wonder you hate all mentions of it Tim. People having to dip into their own pockets, shaving beards (isn't this usually done for charity?) and begging for spare change when selling sausage sangas. Must be feeling a tad guilty.
                    I've never denied that the club has a debt and I have no issues with anyone bringing it up. I had zero to do with the club getting itself into a position of debt and neither did any of the current & subsequent board members (post NEAFL) who have since worked hard to pay it down.

                    However your accusations that ECE owes the league that amount of money is laughable and if you read the reports correctly you can figure this out for yourself. ECE is very fortunate to have some great sponsors and individuals who continue to chip in to pay down their debt not unlike many other clubs.

                    What I do take exception to is your higher than mighty attitude that your club should be treated or thought of differently when in fact it was in the same position and refused to actually acknowledge a significant debt owed to the league. But you don't want to know about it because it was before your time although I struggle to understand how that defense is ok for you to use but not for those at ECE?? #potkettleblack

                    Go home Saviour, you're drunk!

                    PS: Send me your address and I will send you the 2017 & 2018 year book for a bit of light reading.

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                    • Footy Barista
                      Warming the Bench
                      • Nov 2013
                      • 326

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Tim Freedman
                      I've never denied that the club has a debt and I have no issues with anyone bringing it up. I had zero to do with the club getting itself into a position of debt and neither did any of the current & subsequent board members (post NEAFL) who have since worked hard to pay it down.

                      However your accusations that ECE owes the league that amount of money is laughable and if you read the reports correctly you can figure this out for yourself. ECE is very fortunate to have some great sponsors and individuals who continue to chip in to pay down their debt not unlike many other clubs.

                      What I do take exception to is your higher than mighty attitude that your club should be treated or thought of differently when in fact it was in the same position and refused to actually acknowledge a significant debt owed to the league. But you don't want to know about it because it was before your time although I struggle to understand how that defense is ok for you to use but not for those at ECE?? #potkettleblack

                      Go home Saviour, you're drunk!

                      PS: Send me your address and I will send you the 2017 & 2018 year book for a bit of light reading.
                      You stole St Georges only chance a premiership (2016) thats why there is an outrage!

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                      • Tom Wills
                        Warming the Bench
                        • May 2008
                        • 478

                        #56
                        Absolutely sick and tired of the East Coast and St George history debate - can we please drop this discussion ..... forever.

                        Happy to bag both clubs but please let bag them for their actions of today.

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                        • Pmcc2911
                          Regular in the Side
                          • May 2013
                          • 516

                          #57
                          Agree old news

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                          • mountainsofpain
                            Warming the Bench
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 266

                            #58
                            Originally posted by ShortHalfHead
                            Penrith have been dumped from Women's Premier Div in 2019, in favour of East Coast. According to the league, East Coast, who didn't figure in the lower division grand final last year, were a "more compelling" selection than Penrith, who were a kick short of a grand final berth in the Premier Division against UNSW who went on to make it three flags in a row. Seems Western Sydney are still the red-headed bastard children of the AFL.
                            AFL Sydney pandering to one of its pet clubs instead of doing what is in the best interests of the game.

                            We should hardly be surprised.

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                            • Don the Sash
                              Registered User
                              • Dec 2018
                              • 6

                              #59
                              Originally posted by mountainsofpain
                              AFL Sydney pandering to one of its pet clubs instead of doing what is in the best interests of the game.

                              We should hardly be surprised.
                              mountainsofpain, you fell out of the same tree obviously.

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                              • saviour01
                                Regular in the Side
                                • Sep 2013
                                • 932

                                #60
                                Any truth to the rumour Tim that you went for the Camden job, got all the inside info then knocked it back?

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